COVID-19 in America

[spring-peeper]

 

[BristolEcho]

Trump's pleased with his ratings...

White House news conferences watched by nation during a pandemic. Surprise.

 

[spring-peeper]

Missouri sues Chinese Communist Party for ‘billions of dollars’ in coronavirus costs

Missouri filed a lawsuit Tuesday demanding China repay the state “billions of dollars” lost because of the coronavirus, saying the communist government was reckless in its handling of the disease.

www.washingtontimes.com

Missouri filed a lawsuit Tuesday demanding China repay the state “billions of dollars” lost because of the coronavirus, saying the communist government was reckless in its handling of the disease.

Attorney General Eric S. Schmitt said China hid details of the outbreak, hoarded medical supplies and may even have allowed the virus to escape from the Wuhan Institute of Virology — a possibility The Washington Times raised in January, and which has recently gained ground as the U.S. government investigates.

At the very least, the Chinese government and its ruling Communist Party should have known that research on such a dangerous virus was a recipe for disaster, given previous findings of safety concerns at the Wuhan lab, Mr. Schmitt argued.

While checking it out, I found a similar article from March of this year.

$20 trillion lawsuit in US against China for using COVID-19 as biological weapon

Lawsuit says virus has been designed to mutate from person to person, spread rapidly

www.theweek.in

And now, American lawyer Larry Klayman has filed a $20 trillion lawsuit against China for the creation and the release of the novel coronavirus that has infected more than 334,000 people globally.

Klayman, who works for a Texas advocacy group Freedom Watch, and Buzz Photos filed the lawsuit from the US District Court for the Northern District of Texas. In the lawsuit, Klayman is alleging that the COVID-19 virus is a biological weapon designed by China. And by releasing it, China violated US law, international laws, treaties and norms.

The lawsuit also claims that the COVID-19 is an extremely dangerous disease because it has an extremely aggressive nature and was designed to mutate from person to person, spreading quickly.

 

[spring-peeper]

Americans Are Poisoning Themselves in Their Rush to Fight Virus

Poisonings related to cleaners and disinfectants surged in the U.S. last month as the global pandemic spurred a haphazard rush to disinfect everything.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[spring-peeper]

Barr Threatens Legal Action Against Governors Over Lockdowns

The Justice Department will consider taking legal action against governors who continue to impose stringent rules for dealing with the coronavirus that infringe on constitutional rights even after the crisis subsides in their states, Attorney General William Barr said.

www.bloomberg.com

The Justice Department will consider taking legal action against governors who continue to impose stringent rules for dealing with the coronavirus that infringe on constitutional rights even after the crisis subsides in their states, Attorney General William Barr said.

Blunt means to deal with the pandemic, such as stay-at-home orders and directives shutting down businesses, are justified up to a point, Barr said in an interview Tuesday on “The Hugh Hewitt Show.” Eventually, though, states should move to more targeted measures, Barr said. He cited the approach laid out by President Donald Trump.

“We have to give businesses more freedom to operate in a way that’s reasonably safe,” Barr said. “To the extent that governors don’t and impinge on either civil rights or on the national commerce -- our common market that we have here -- then we’ll have to address that.”

Barr’s comments come as the Trump administration and states are struggling -- and at times fighting with each other -- over the best strategy to deal with the crisis. Trump has stoked tensions with some Democratic governors who are dealing with protests against stringent social-distancing rules, even as his administration backs guidelines that call for states to open up gradually.

 

[zahir]

Many people have the impression that it’s too late for contact tracing. It’s useful for keeping an infection out of the country, they say, but it’s too hard once the disease is widespread. As veterans of previous campaigns against epidemics, we can say with certainty that this is a misperception. We agree that it is late, but countries that have succeeded in suppressing covid-19 have shown that contact tracing is effective even at the peak of an epidemic. In the fight against infection, you’re always late. Lateness just means that there’s no time to waste.

It’s Not Too Late to Go on Offense Against the Coronavirus

To end the nightmare, lockdowns aren’t enough. We need to hunt the virus and defeat it.

www.newyorker.com

 

[editor]

Amen

Philosophically, I’m okay with right-wing agitators’ going out there and getting the coronavirus at a protest, if they want to. Maybe I’m a bad person, but I just don’t have the emotional energy to care about the latest wound Republicans have decided to self-inflict in their never-ending quest to “own the libs.”

But they must not be allowed to infect everybody else. My freedom to live is every bit as important as their freedom to die

These People Aren’t Freedom Fighters—They’re Virus-Spreading Sociopaths

The “liberate America” protesters claim they just want to make their own choices about their health and safety, but they really want to force others to risk their lives.

www.thenation.com

 

[editor]

A look into the universe of stupid:

"loosing," natch.

33 Signs From "Reopen" Protests Across The U.S. That Are 100% Real

"We demand haircuts."

www.buzzfeed.com

 

[Sue]

I like the 'Covid-19 or Covid-1984' one and who isn't demanding haircuts, eh?

 

[Gimigimi]

Missouri sues Chinese Communist Party for ‘billions of dollars’ in coronavirus costs

Missouri filed a lawsuit Tuesday demanding China repay the state “billions of dollars” lost because of the coronavirus, saying the communist government was reckless in its handling of the disease.

www.washingtontimes.com

While checking it out, I found a similar article from March of this year.

$20 trillion lawsuit in US against China for using COVID-19 as biological weapon

Lawsuit says virus has been designed to mutate from person to person, spread rapidly

www.theweek.in

This is going to become the prevailing narrative about the pandemic in the US, if it hasn't already. Deflecting criticism of the government's handling of the crisis with "it's China's fault" is already standard procedure for tons of idiots - providing ammunition for that argument that is the purpose of these lawsuits. It allows the state to blame all its failings at responding to the virus on the active malfeasance of a foreign enemy. We couldn't possibly have secured or produced more equipment, because China bought it all. We couldn't have instituted more effective lockdown procedures, because the virus was bioengineered by China to sneak past all our defenses. Then China accidentally spread it across their own population, because the enemy is simultaneously too powerful and too weak. Never mind all the other countries that did a better job protecting their citizens, the virus wasn't designed for them.

Is it possible the virus was some Chinese bioweapon? Sure, and I'll consider it when evidence is produced by an organization that isn't a rival world power. Right now, though, I'm putting my money on this essentially being groundwork for Trump's 2020 campaign.

 

[spring-peeper]

Is it possible the virus was some Chinese bioweapon? Sure, and I'll consider it when evidence is produced by an organization that isn't a rival world power. Right now, though, I'm putting my money on this essentially being groundwork for Trump's 2020 campaign.

WHO says it was not manufactured in a lab.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

This is going to become the prevailing narrative about the pandemic in the US, if it hasn't already. Deflecting criticism of the government's handling of the crisis with "it's China's fault" is already standard procedure for tons of idiots - providing ammunition for that argument that is the purpose of these lawsuits. It allows the state to blame all its failings at responding to the virus on the active malfeasance of a foreign enemy. We couldn't possibly have secured or produced more equipment, because China bought it all. We couldn't have instituted more effective lockdown procedures, because the virus was bioengineered by China to sneak past all our defenses. Then China accidentally spread it across their own population, because the enemy is simultaneously too powerful and too weak. Never mind all the other countries that did a better job protecting their citizens, the virus wasn't designed for them.

Is it possible the virus was some Chinese bioweapon? Sure, and I'll consider it when evidence is produced by an organization that isn't a rival world power. Right now, though, I'm putting my money on this essentially being groundwork for Trump's 2020 campaign.

Só, viral pandemics have been top of the west’s risk registers for a decade. How come there wasn’t a doctor on the CIA’s or MI6’s payroll in every Chinese testing lab or major hospital? All those bloody satellites that should have been looking for grave digging. Maybe it was all the obsession with the “war on terror” and the “war on drugs”.

 

[spring-peeper]

Só, viral pandemics have been top of the west’s risk registers for a decade. How come there wasn’t a doctor on the CIA’s or MI6’s payroll in every Chinese testing lab or major hospital? All those bloody satellites that should have been looking for grave digging. Maybe it was all the obsession with the “war on terror” and the “war on drugs”.

It would seem that America is always at war with something.

 

[petee]

While checking it out, I found a similar article from March of this year.

$20 trillion lawsuit in US against China for using COVID-19 as biological weapon

Lawsuit says virus has been designed to mutate from person to person, spread rapidly

www.theweek.in

ah yes, larry klayman

Larry Klayman is a pathologically litigious attorney and professional gadfly notorious for suing everyone from Iran’s Supreme Leader to his own mother. He has spent years denouncing Barack Obama as a crypto-Communist Muslim, convening meaningless “citizens grand juries,” and railing against an endless list of enemies.

Larry Klayman

www.splcenter.org

he really did sue his mother (this is from 1998, he's been with us awhile)

Nut Watch

Everything you need to know about Larry Klayman can be gleaned from a press release he blast-faxed to the world two weeks ago. The heading read:

slate.com

 

[petee]

oh, and we had a hailstorm and tornado warnings here in NYC today.

 

[weltweit]

WHO says it was not manufactured in a lab.

The US bio researchers who looked at the DNA of the virus stated that its makeup is consistent with it having originated in horseshoe bats. They were looking at the detail to see if they could establish human intervention and they only found natural processes at work in the development of the virus.

Oh WHO as in World Health Organisation ! I misread your post …

 

[Yossarian]

25 years after Waco, there's a new death cult in Texas.

Texas lt. governor on reopening state: ‘There are more important things than living’

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) called for the reopening of his state and the country late Monday, saying there are “more important things than living.”Patrick said on Fox News’…

thehill.com

 

[ska invita]

This is going to become the prevailing narrative about the pandemic in the US, if it hasn't already. Deflecting criticism of the government's handling of the crisis with "it's China's fault" is already standard procedure for tons of idiots - providing ammunition for that argument that is the purpose of these lawsuits. It allows the state to blame all its failings at responding to the virus on the active malfeasance of a foreign enemy. We couldn't possibly have secured or produced more equipment, because China bought it all. We couldn't have instituted more effective lockdown procedures, because the virus was bioengineered by China to sneak past all our defenses. Then China accidentally spread it across their own population, because the enemy is simultaneously too powerful and too weak. Never mind all the other countries that did a better job protecting their citizens, the virus wasn't designed for them.

Is it possible the virus was some Chinese bioweapon? Sure, and I'll consider it when evidence is produced by an organization that isn't a rival world power. Right now, though, I'm putting my money on this essentially being groundwork for Trump's 2020 campaign.

Sinophobia is on the rise for sure. I'm seeing signs of it here in the UK, and not just C19 related, trade and culture too.

Heard a friend go into a bit of a rant having seen some kind of article in the Times even,: not saying that it was a bioweapon, but something along the lines that because China failed the world is suffering. Some truth in that, but to make it an anti-Chinese issue rather than a degree of human failure is ideology.

Obviously Xi is a disgrace, and the ramping up of totalitarianism is horrific, but the attempt to create a culture war between Oceania and Eastasia has to be called out for the deflection that it is.

 

[cupid_stunt]

25 years after Waco, there's a new death cult in Texas.

Texas lt. governor on reopening state: ‘There are more important things than living’

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) called for the reopening of his state and the country late Monday, saying there are “more important things than living.”Patrick said on Fox News’…

thehill.com

Just checked, Texas hasn't had much of a problem, under 20 deaths per million, compared to New York on over 1000, so they may get away with it.

It'll be an interesting one to watch.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

Houston Tx has some of the highest density living in the US and high levels of air pollution. Same with Dallas. And the poorest city in America is in Texas (Escobaras). They've also got a huge number of undocumented immigrants in Texas.

They have huge empty spaces in Texas too and widely spaced suburbs and lots of rich white people, so they’ll be more chushioned but Texas won’t dodge COVID.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

Native Americans face a potential firestorm with the virus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2020/04/04/native-american-coronavirus/

ETA
Some of them took an independent proactive approach early on.

Native American tribe takes trailblazing steps to fight Covid-19 outbreak

Lummi nation will open a pioneering field hospital to treat patients in wave of strong public health measures

www.theguardian.com

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Sinophobia is on the rise for sure. I'm seeing signs of it here in the UK, and not just C19 related, trade and culture too.

Heard a friend go into a bit of a rant having seen some kind of article in the Times even,: not saying that it was a bioweapon, but something along the lines that because China failed the world is suffering. Some truth in that, but to make it an anti-Chinese issue rather than a degree of human failure is ideology.

Obviously Xi is a disgrace, and the ramping up of totalitarianism is horrific, but the attempt to create a culture war between Oceania and Eastasia has to be called out for the deflection that it is.

It's also factually highly doubtful. Yes, China initially sought to hide and cover up the outbreak, but they changed tack quickly, and by January China was being pretty free and open about its information about the virus - what it is, what they know about its transmission, its genetic sequence, etc. As this WHO timeline shows, China was already inviting the world in to help study it by the end of January.

It's not China's fault that the foolish leaders of countries like the UK and the US ignored this information and basically did nothing for about six weeks. The narrative that 'China failed the world' doesn't really hold up.

 

[The39thStep]

There's more important things than living

 

[maomao]

Are the US death figures just hospital confirmed deaths like over here? They've just hit 45000 officially dead. If that figure is as innacurate as the FT say the UK figure is they could be up to a hundred thousand dead.

 

[hegley]

Houston Tx has some of the highest density living in the US and high levels of air pollution. Same with Dallas. And the poorest city in America is in Texas (Escobaras). They've also got a huge number of undocumented immigrants in Texas.

They have huge empty spaces in Texas too and widely spaced suburbs and lots of rich white people, so they’ll be more chushioned but Texas won’t dodge COVID.

And some of the highest levels of obesity in the US, one of the highest risk factors for C19.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

And some of the highest levels of obesity in the US, one of the highest risk factors for C19.

And high levels of associated diabetes, cardiovascular issues etc.

 

[ska invita]

total speculation, but outside of New York my impressions is US cities dont really have much public transport - in places like Texas its very car centric. Probably makes a difference in terms of rate of spread

 

[SheilaNaGig]

total speculation, but outside of New York my impressions is US cities dont really have much public transport - in places like Texas its very car centric. Probably makes a difference in terms of rate of spread

That’s true outside cities. But in my experience, people outside cities also visit each others’ homes, eat out a lot, go shopping etc, they don’t just stay home. Even people on low incomes will eat out weekly, food is pretty cheap in fast food places. They don’t have a pub and club culture like we do here but they do socialise, they go to the mall, the ball game, cook outs, school related social events.

 

[editor]

 

[weltweit]

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in fucking credible !