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Coronavirus: music festivals, big gigs, sports events and big gatherings - going ahead and cancelled

I dunno, reckon there's a good chance they will be able to hold it safely enough. its a good while into the (theoretical) everything open with no restrictions stage, so short of something going significantly wrong I reckon August events will probably happen.

I noticed Raw Power is advertising its happening in August too fwiw - and that's an indoor festival
 
So no festivals, gigs or late nights out once most people have been vaccinated?
Politicians have ably demonstrated that they will ignore the science when they think it is convenient for them, so your guess is as good as mine. I have no plans to attend any festivals or travel this year.
The point I was responding to was about people placing too much hope in any of that happening at all this year, to which my response was, if not once every adult has been offered the vaccine, then when?
Offered != first dose in arm != fully vaccinated. Right now no one can be certain what variant will be prevalent later in the year, and what degrees of efficacy any current vaccine will have with respect to that. It will take a timescale measured in years to vaccinate "most people". In this country alone it will take most of this year, at least, and the vaccines haven't even been approved in children yet. It will also take many months to a year, and beyond, to characterise the evolution of the vaccine mediated immune response (and thus necessity of, and implications for, booster strategies), particularly in more vulnerable cohorts.
 
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Whether it will happen or not and regardless of whether it feels right or not I simply cannot picture how we go from May 16th when its considered not safe to be sat inside a cafe or restaurant to June 21st when its a fuck it all - do what you like - extravaganza.

I just can't fathom what that looks like or how it happens.
 
Notting Hill Carnival is still on, isn’t it? Hearing odd snippets about social distancing in nightclubs, which of course won’t happen, but Notting Hill is just rammed.
 
They're just planning on going to a festival aren't they? If it's not going to be relatively safe to go, it'll get cancelled. If it doesn't get cancelled then they're good to go. I'm not really sure what else you can expect from people.
It’s not just the festivals though. It feels like the whole country is about to jump off a cliff.
 
If it does go ahead, maybe its buy your ticket first, find out later that there is no camping allowed, it will be socially distanced in pens, and the volume will be turned down so you arent encouraged to dance, kinda thing. It is Mean Fiddler, after all.
It's being upgraded to a psytrance silent disco event
 
Attila has just announced that Glastonwick is definitely off this year. I had guessed that would be the case, but it's a shame. It's normally the first weekend of June, so couldn't have happened then, but I guess people were hoping it might get moved to late summer.
He's left the door open for a one night mini fest in September, but I doubt it will happen. Besides, September is looking pretty full already.
He has COPD too, which affects his thoughts on risk.
 
I'm astonished by this sudden outburst of planning, it's caught me out! :eek:

But I suppose fest planners will plan whatever, for the reasons killer b said.

Following Monday's announcements, they probably felt free to flick the on-switch of plans that were in place already.

If organisers perceive even just half-a-chance of their event going ahead then they'll set the wheels in motion.

Advance ticket sale money is key to oiling those wheels anyway, for the bigger bashes particularly .........

Still, the reality with all this is very much a case of 'moar later' before we know anything for sure .... :hmm:
 
Advance ticket sale money is key to oiling those wheels anyway, for the bigger bashes particularly .........
The ticket money is held by the ticketing agencies until the event is delivered so the organisers will be borrowing against that. They will get (or already have) some money from the traders at the event but nothing near the contractor, artists and overheads needed. Worst case scenario all the visitors can defer their bookings to 2022 or get a full refund.

Fingers crossed all is good and by June things are opening up as planned :) I fear that a lot of the organisers are already on borrowed time :( so further postponements will be realy bad! Also I think festivals will bring a much needed boost to us all :cool:
 
End of the Road has just sold out.
It was probably close to sold out anyway, I don’t know anyone who didn’t roll their deposit over to this year. If there’s any festival I’m going to feel fairly safe at, I think it would be EOTR. Fairly small and relaxed and easy to avoid crowded tents and stay outdoors.
I’ll check what the policy is on cancellations and pay our balance on a credit card and then wait and see.
I won’t be surprised if something goes wrong but I hope not, for the survival of the festival more than anything.
 
See Boomtown has sold out. Not surprising really after Boris gave the go ahead but bit gutted, was gonna order some tickets tomorrow. Resale in May and second hand tix still an option I guess.

They had planned to cut capacity significantly, but still quite surprised it has sold out today! Really glad for them though. It has to be the most breath-taking festival in the U.K after Glastonbury, with a good independent ethos behind it.
 
Boomtown 2022 is my plan. I liked it lots in 2019, but will have better plans :) to reduce the stressyness next time :hmm:

Also, 2022 will be my semi-retirement year, a summer of extra-multiple fests to anticipate two-days-a-week-ness from late August :cool:

So I demand zero pandemic by then! ;) :D
 
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The other day, Fishmonkeynan posted this onto the Bearded Theory forum ....

Strangely enough, the day after posting icame across this bit of evidence from the association of independent festivals to the govt select committee looking into festivals ( worth a look if you’re interested in festivals) which answers the question.. basically it should be held separately and usually is, but some festivals have been dipping into it to keep themselves afloat...



2. Julie Elliot MP raised the point around risk to the consumer in the event of festivals not taking place and was simply told that customers will be able to get refunds from ticketing companies as the point of purchase. It should be noted that in reality, many festival companies draw down advance ticket money from ticketing companies. As detailed in our post Round 1 CRF report submitted to DCMS in November, some festivals who didn’t receive funding are on the brink of imminent collapse and have exhausted (or being rejected for) other options including repayable finance such as CBILS and Bounce Back loans. These include high profile festivals, many of whom can be considered to occupy a unique and in some cases leadership position in their regions, generating significant direct and indirect economic impacts. Significantly, our survey also revealed that these festivals who were unsuccessful were collectively holding over £10m in ‘drawn down’ ticket retention income, over £800k per festival on average, illustrating the extent of the detriment to the consumer if these businesses collapse- while these funds should be ring fenced and essentially held in escrow in the event of needing to make further refunds, customers would not necessarily be able to access a refund in the event of business collapse. This level of financial risk to the consumer is a distinguishing factor between festivals and, for example grassroots venues due to the high ticket price- and I believe strengthens the argument for financial support of the sector.

Plenty in there that's worth a look, especially if you're interested in the practicalities of festival-organising, and their prospects.
 
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