Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[Raheem]

Witty offered this as evidence that the increase in the south east is down to this new variant: A comparison with Yorkshire and the Humber, where cases of the new variant are low and tier 3 has been having an effect, and the SE, where cases of the new variant are higher and tier 3 hasn't worked. From which he concludes that the new strain is so infectious that tier 3 doesn't work.

Isn't this a completely dishonest analysis, since it ignores that the SE has only been in tier 3 for the blink of an eye? And doesn't his resorting to this suggest that there isn't any real evidence for him to point to?

Just wondering.

 

[Sue]

You're absolutely right, and of course both coronavirus itself and the measures brought in to deal with it have disproportionately affected the poor, right from day one.

Given where we are now, I think it's right that people shouldn't travel significant distances to visit people over Xmas, by whatever means, but the reason we've arrived at this situation now is because of the government's consistent tendency to do too little, too late, and then have to do more, at the last minute, when the situation gets even worse.

It's not even significant distances though, it's also within London as you can't stay overnight and there's no public transport on Christmas day.

 

[bimble]

Fully understand why anyone would choose not to watch. He adds nothing but military metaphors and he absolutely hates telling people stuff they wont want to hear so is a terrible communicator for this stuff.

 

[Badgers]

Cancelling Winterval 6 days before Winterval because Disgraced Prime Minister Johnson couldn’t face the pain of cancelling Winterval 10 days before Winterval.

 

[agricola]

Witty offered this as evidence that the increase in the south east is down to this new variant: A comparison with Yorkshire and the Humber, where cases of the new variant are low and tier 3 has been having an effect, and the SE, where cases of the new variant are higher and tier 3 hasn't worked. From which he concludes that the new strain is so infectious that tier 3 doesn't work.

Isn't this a completely dishonest analysis, since it ignores that the SE has only been in tier 3 for the blink of an eye? And doesn't his resorting to this suggest that there isn't any real evidence for him to point to?

Just wondering.

Apart from theatres, restaurants and pubs being closed (or takeaway only for the last two) its really hard to discern what they expect Tier 3 in London to actually do. Even the bookies are open, which I'd have thought are pretty much the definition of non-essential business.

 

[T & P]

 

[killer b]

all those london last-minute guys who were going to spend wednesday or thursday rushing round the shops will be feeling doom right now won't they?

 

[Steel Icarus]

If only

 

[mack]

If you are going to do this, you've got to do it quickly or everyone will just rush to travel before the restrictions come in. I'd imagine motorway traffic out of London is going to spike this evening.

My dim flatmate has just jumped in their car to go to bluewater shopping

 

[mauvais]

I have a question. This new variant. Is it UK specific? And, if it is, why?

It's South East specific and is biologically only able to flourish in an environment where everyone has been doing their best to stay safe and keep the economy moving but has now tragically been thwarted in those efforts by the deus ex machina appearance of A New Strain. Science, lad.

This is why we didn't have a fancy pants mutation in the North West, we got our big old ’rona increase predictably and frankly deservedly from our backwards halfwit practice of sharing a Covid-infested bathtub of gravy with the entire street like in Billeh fookin Elliot.

 

[T & P]

all those london last-minute guys who were going to spend wednesday or thursday rushing round the shops will be feeling doom right now won't they?

Not that it saves me anything other than going to the store now (as opposed to whenever everything reopens), but I’ve already told the missus her main Xmas present will be late this year. Not a biggie anyway. If it’d been a gift for a child it’d have been a completely different story though.

 

[agricola]

My dim flatmate has just jumped in their car to go to bluewater shopping

if its any comfort, the Brexit lorry queues in Kent should mean that they serve their quarantine period in the traffic before they get back

 

[cupid_stunt]

Witty offered this as evidence that the increase in the south east is down to this new variant: A comparison with Yorkshire and the Humber, where cases of the new variant are low and tier 3 has been having an effect, and the SE, where cases of the new variant are higher and tier 3 hasn't worked. From which he concludes that the new strain is so infectious that tier 3 doesn't work.

Isn't this a completely dishonest analysis, since it ignores that the SE has only been in tier 3 for the blink of an eye? And doesn't his resorting to this suggest that there isn't any real evidence for him to point to?

Just wondering.

No, because before coming out of lockdown and since, most tier 3 areas have seen declining case numbers, except Kent where it's rapidly taken off, and spread out across much of the SE.

 

[brogdale]

Churches still open for business...time to say a little prayer for the elderly that tend to gather in them?

 

[bimble]

People will be getting some really terrible last minute internet-bought scented candles & bath crap, the stuff that smells so bad even last minute man wouldn't buy it in an actual shop.

 

[editor]

This is going to hit some people's mental health really really bad. Especially old people, some of whom are now condemned to spend Christmas day alone. This decision should have been made weeks ago.

 

[killer b]

People will be getting some really terrible last minute internet-bought scented candles & bath crap, the stuff that smells so bad even last minute man wouldn't buy it in an actual shop.

I would imagine a lot of stuff ordered this weekend will struggle to get delivered on time tbh. deliveries are heavily delayed right now.

Lots of girlfriends in london are getting a box of Ferero Rocher and some wilting chrysanthemums...

 

[chilango]

This is going to hit some people's mental health really really bad. Especially old people, some of whom are now condemned to spend Christmas day alone. This decision should have been made weeks ago.

Yeah. My Mum is in pieces it's the only thing that's been keeping her going for months.

 

[brogdale]

There's some properly dangerous idiots sat behind Johnson...

 

[TopCat]

Do we all get on magic trains that run on Xmas day then?

That is a very good question.

 

[neonwilderness]

Cancelling Winterval 6 days before Winterval because Disgraced Prime Minister Johnson couldn’t face the pain of cancelling Winterval 10 days before Winterval.

This performance from the last PMQs hasn't aged well

 

[Sue]

Lots of girlfriends in london are getting a box of Ferero Rocher and some wilting chrysanthemums...

Have you met my brother (in non-Covid times)?

 

[cupid_stunt]

This is going to hit some people's mental health really really bad. Especially old people, some of whom are now condemned to spend Christmas day alone. This decision should have been made weeks ago.

The planned country wide lockdown in Wales, due to come into affect from 28 December, has been brought forward and will begin at midnight tonight.

And, 2-households mixing now also reduced to Christmas Day only too.

Covid: Wales locks down as Christmas plans cut

All of Wales is under strict lockdown rules from Sunday, with only one day of mixing at Christmas.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[chilango]

Yeah. My Mum is in pieces it's the only thing that's been keeping her going for months.

...but I'd rather she was in pieces than dead to be quite blunt.

 

[StoneRoad]

There's some properly dangerous idiots sat behind Johnson...

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those twats should be done for encouraging something akin to murder.
all these delays will cause excess deaths ...
the vulnerable & elderly can't afford to wait while parliament picks it's collective nose has a debate & vote.

as I have said several times already.
jobs and the economy can be kickstarted with more money but lives lost are lost forever.
(I don't suppose these antilockdown/antimaskers actually have elderly realtives ?)

 

[bimble]

I’m really sorry, for all of the chilango’s mums. It’s just so sad. Angry is easier but there’ll be so much real sadness out there right now.

 

[brogdale]

those twats should be done for encouraging something akin to murder.
all these delays will cause excess deaths ...
the vulnerable & elderly can't afford to wait while parliament picks it's collective nose has a debate & vote.

as I have said several times already.
jobs and the economy can be kickstarted with more money but lives lost are lost forever.
(I don't suppose these antilockdown/antimaskers actually have elderly realtives ?)

The psychopathic, death-cult loons are all coming out of the woodwork...

 

[editor]

Quick Q. My ex girlfriend is booked on a 5pm flight to Italy tomorrow. Will she be able to leave?

 

[chilango]

I’m really sorry, for all of the chilango’s mums. It’s just so sad. Angry is easier but there’ll be so much real sadness out there right now.

Yeah. There's millions who could've been given time to manage, plan and prepare for an alternative this year but instead have had an impossible carrot dangled in their faces only for it to be cruelly snatched away at the last minute for no other reason than the Prime Minister is a fucking coward.

 

[lazythursday]

Quick Q. My ex girlfriend is booked on a 5pm flight to Italy tomorrow. Will she be able to leave?

They clearly said no international travel from tier 4 areas, but didn't say if this is law or guidance.

Italy would be crazy to let her in, of coure.