Better questions from the journo's today - not sure they are being answered though...for example no response on the ventilators!!
Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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elbows
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And the question about 4 weeks was met with a dubious answer about lower prediction reliability at the start when you have far fewer data points. That is true but there was enough other stuff out there that randomers like me and others on this forum and elsewhere knew that 4 weeks didnt sound right. Vallance thinks its more like 3 weeks now, still a bit of a fudge but I dont care so much about those details and narrative, just that they start the right measures at the right time.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
The title of the graph is also wrong. It should be 'increase in recorded cases slows' or 'number of new cases falls'. A single number cannot be fast or slow.
bimble
floofy
For some reason this has made me angrier than anything else so far, why weren’t they doing this weeks or even months ago. We have 5,000 I read somewhere to go round everyone in the UK.
weltweit
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You make a good point, it should have been thought about earlier indeed, perhaps it is a detail that fell through the cracks.
A bit hyperbolic there. They are trying to protect them by isolating them from infection, might be a more generous position. They could have instituted these massive restrictions a week ago, but have saved them until the last minute as they are horribly restrictive
little_legs
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You are right about the restrictions. I was actually referring to the low testing numbers, they should test as many elderly as possible.
LDC
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With your huge medical experience of global pandemics and how to beat them?
little_legs
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With my following of how South Korea handled the outbreak. Also, fuck off with your patronising tone.
little_legs
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elbows
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You mean like the WHO saying that you cannot fight a fire while blindfolded, test, test,test?
Indeed. Given that most of them vote Tory its an odd move for the Tories to do on purpose.
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
I'm literally trying to find this out right now. Everyone can give a few examples but no one gives a comprehensive list, and the advice I'm seeing about my condition seems incredibly dubious if it is there at all
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
There is contention over ace 2 inhibitors ...
The European cardiologists reckon there's research that shows that ace inhibitors can actually be protective ...
The European cardiologists reckon there's research that shows that ace inhibitors can actually be protective ...
kazza007
Bunned
Should asthmatics be soon to be asked to stay at home for 12 weeks?
The message is confusing. In a video posted here from YouTube with that doctor, he talked about mild to moderate asthma and controlled diabetes being not classed as 'serious underlying disease'
Is this the case?
And I'm self employed and can't work from home.
The message is confusing. In a video posted here from YouTube with that doctor, he talked about mild to moderate asthma and controlled diabetes being not classed as 'serious underlying disease'
Is this the case?
And I'm self employed and can't work from home.
maomao
普費斯
My colleague who was meant to be having a stomach sleeve fitted has just had his operation cancelled. He's in his 60s with COPD and diabetes and had done his liver shrinking diet properly for the last four weeks. Gutted for him. He'll probably never get the op now and would be unwise to leave his house anytime soon.
magneze
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You were LOLing London being fucked a while ago. Perhaps you could just give it a rest eh?
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Grace Johnson
i like dairylea dunkers
Kind of yes and no. It doesn't seem like enough but Asking people first is actually pretty reasonable. It gives them time to gauge what the general public response is and to put other measures in accordingly. To just come out of the blue and put the police and the military on the streets to keep people in is risky as fuck. I live in the inner city and if they tried that round here I can properly see it kicking it off. Also the neccasary legal measures for these kinds of restrictions on people's lives just isn't there at the moment. As much as I hate these cunts and think their response upto now has been absolutely woeful and believe these measures are not quite far enough reaching. I don't think they are that far off the mark here. Bringing that in by force might work in suburban towns but in other places its playing with fire.
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I'm not convinced it's even come into their reasoning on the matter tbh but there's an important psychological aspect to this too. If everyone is sensible and stays away from people and shops and limits everything then people can still get out for exercise. Part of the advice today said as long as you stay away from people you can go out for exercise if self isolating. That's a big thing. That will do wonders for people's psychological well being its also going to help people stay healthy which boosts their immunity. It will make people more able to withstand long periods of isolation. Not saying that that's their reasoning at all. I don't think they even care. But if everyone stays away from shops, bars and restaurants we've all got a chance for this to go a bit easier. So there's that too no faith in anyone being sensible about it tho tbh
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little_legs
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I wasn't LOLing, I was being ironic. I am sorry if this came off as a bullshit move, it's far from funny.
scifisam
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Nicely done. Our Tower Hamlets one has laid out some ground rules that are mostly being stuck to so far.
Tower Hamlets Covid19 Community Support
This is a group for Tower Hamlets residents looking to help each other out during the Covid-19/corona virus pandemic. You can be accepted to the group once you agree to admin rules and answer...www.facebook.com
This is a group for Tower Hamlets residents looking to help each other out during the Covid-19/corona virus pandemic. You can be accepted to the group once you agree to admin rules and answer questions as requested.
We will be looking to help people access food, complete errands etc - particularly those who are elderly, disabled and/or immunocompromised.
This is not a group for exchanging medical advice. We cannot provide medical advice. Please get in touch with your GP or call 111 if you have symptoms you are worried about.
No prejudice will be tolerated, and anyone attempting to underplay the seriousness of the pandemic will be banned from posting. Likewise please don't share posts that stir up panic, or anything that isn't useful or relevant to supporting the community.
I'm on that too - it does seem to be well run.
Probably because, if there's an official ban on public gatherings, etc, then companies will be able to claim on insurance, employees might be able to claim benefits, and there might be a push for the government to arrange some compensation, with the reasonable logic that if they could bail out the banks then they can bail out small businesses. If he can say "well, they chose to close," then he won't pay out anything. It would cost the government money and Johnson and his like don't give a shit about small businesses.
LDC
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For sure, but that's not some randomer shouting 'test all the elderly!' on the internet in some panic of knowing fuck all.
platinumsage
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The US has put an Admiral in charge of testing, and 1.9 million test kits produced by commercial companies are being distributed this week, with millions more to follow.
Meanwhile we're apparently ramping up to ten thousand at some point.
Meanwhile we're apparently ramping up to ten thousand at some point.
Treacle Toes
Time
Trump Mobster Family are now making a mint from the increase in testing as SIL Kushner's company has the monopoly...the delay was a business move. The Cunts.
weltweit
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I believe we (UK) will or even can test 10,000 per day, something they are yet to do mind you.
BigTom
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UK public told to work from home, avoid pubs and abandon travel plans amid coronavirus outbreak
‘Now is the time for everyone to stop non-essential contact with others and to stop all unnecessary travel,’ prime minister says
www.independent.co.uk
UK public told to work from home, avoid pubs and abandon travel plans amid coronavirus outbreak
‘Now is the time for everyone to stop non-essential contact with others and to stop all unnecessary travel,’ prime minister says
www.independent.co.uk
Govt now say no unneccesary contact, to stay away from pubs, clubs, theatres etc., no mass gatherings from tomorrow (but can't see a number for "mass" yet).
elbows
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They have made many wild claims about testing to try to compensate for the disgraceful situation with tests there. I will wait till they actually materialise and get used.
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Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
But my college and my kids' schools are open. JayneeoosUK public told to work from home, avoid pubs and abandon travel plans amid coronavirus outbreak
‘Now is the time for everyone to stop non-essential contact with others and to stop all unnecessary travel,’ prime minister says
UK public told to work from home, avoid pubs and abandon travel plans amid coronavirus outbreak
‘Now is the time for everyone to stop non-essential contact with others and to stop all unnecessary travel,’ prime minister says
Govt now say no unneccesary contact, to stay away from pubs, clubs, theatres etc., no mass gatherings from tomorrow (but can't see a number for "mass" yet).
cupid_stunt
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Trump claimed over a week ago that a million test kits were being sent out, they weren't, it was a lie.
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