Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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Why? I am getting pretty pissed off that with hardly any covid about, my son is still not getting the services he needs and which cannot be delivered remotely. Especially as a teacher, I have been teaching face to face.
There's loads of covid around. England still has one of the highest death rates in Europe. This, of course, does not take away anything from your perfectly legitimate questioning of why your son isn't getting the treatment he needs.
Yes, it's not gone. But is there enough to justify why these essential services have not resumed? Most of his people are not redeployed, they're working in online waiting for the go ahead to resume working face to face.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Yeah it's pretty shit that we can get a haircut, an eye test and a massage but we can't see anyone face to face at the NHS for a consultation. I have had a consultation indefinitely postponed and find this confusing and frustrating.
BlanketAddict
Well-Known Member
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
You can't write it in and have a phone consultation? (Not asking for details)
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Nope
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I work in primary care as we do see people face-to-face, but much lower numbers than before and we deal with stuff over the phone when at all possible, have no idea how it's working with secondary care or other areas.
And people are being seen face-to-face, as they have been all the way through, but what have been deemed non-essential appointments have been cut back. Also they'll be a massive backlog now which will take time to clear.
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gosub
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Similar here. And was out and about yesterday, granted it was a hot day but majority seemed to be waiting for it to be mandated before wearing face covering whilst shopping
mr steev
magic thought wizard
I've been visiting big supermarkets all through lockdown through work. In asda the security have been letting me in through the exit to save me going all round the store through their one way system. I went yesterday and the one way system and queuing had gone. In previous weeks I'd say about a quarter of people would be masked, yesterday it seemed more like a twentieth.
clicker
nanook rubs it....
Do individual shops have a right to refuse permission to individuals? Regardless of govt mandates and the public's preference? Could Tesco put up a nice corporate coloured poster on the door now saying...no mask no entry?
If they can why are they not? Is it just simply they care more about how much goes through the till, than the person sat on the till or the person pushing the trolley?
Or are all these shops currently unable to refuse entry on their own grounds?
If they can why are they not? Is it just simply they care more about how much goes through the till, than the person sat on the till or the person pushing the trolley?
Or are all these shops currently unable to refuse entry on their own grounds?
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Not on the basis of a protected characteristic. If you can't wear a mask because of a disability or religious belief etc, then they can't refuse entry for that.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Very few disabilities mean you can't wear a mask though. And what religious beliefs mean you can't?
Reno
The In Kraut
Thora
Differently Ethical
You'd have to have very severe/uncontrolled asthma to not be able to wear a mask. I would have thought people who are so at risk that they wouldn't be able to wear a mask wouldn't be taking a trip to the supermarket anyway?
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
My ambulance driver cousin and my covid ward nurse friend are both asthmatic and they have to wear full on N95 masks all shift. I don't buy that someone with asthma can't wear a cloth or paper mask for a twenty minute walk round a supermarket.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
I don't, I'm just saying supermarket staff might not have such an easy time trying to deny people entry.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
They're illnesses or conditions not disabilities.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Exactly. It's total bollocks people with asthma can't wear a fabric face covering. People with severe COPD that require continuous oxygen fair enough, but generally COPD and asthma, no way.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
It's managed when shops and bars insist on people wearing tops in the summer. Same as that, just have a notice on the entrance. Will only take a few weeks for the dickheads that refuse to wear a mask to have been denied entry a few times to give up and start wearing one.
clicker
nanook rubs it....
And maybe employ temporary security staff knowing part of their role is controlling entry to the store. There must be a lot of out of work trained door staff at the moment. I know it'd be an expense to the store, but it may encourage more people in who currently avoid it.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Cue lots of dickheads using "I've got asthma, don't have to, ha." as an excuse not to wear a mask.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Take it up with asthma.uk
Yes fair enough people with severe asthma aren't likely to be going to supermarkets, but some will need to use public transport.
wtfftw
melting like a toastie
Illnesses and conditions can be disabilities.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Yeah, have seen that. Think it's bollocks, especially considering if you had asthma you'd want to be even more careful about getting infected. Most medical organisations say it won't be a problem for nearly everyone that has asthma or COPD, but there might be a very few exceptions.
I don't know how you clear a backlog when you haven't resumed the service. Seems to me like this is the window to resume contact but before that happens, we'll probably be in a 2nd wave.
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