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BigDaftie said:
Im no returner. But im intrigued as to who you think I am, they better of had great banter 😂😂

I'm an ex websluths gal. I had a fight with a mod and I got banned. But I just like following cases, trials, news and some banter inbetween.

I liked the look of this board as it's uk and looks lively. I'll be sticking around. I don't mind the hostility, it's weird but quite funny.
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As soon as anyone new shows up they are assumed to be a returner because why would anyone new volunteer to come here?
 
Roadkill said:
I think we should all learn semaphore. :cool:

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Anything to stop the mime artists inheriting the earth.
 
xenon said:
I'm not wearing a mask in the street until it's mandatory. Masks are still only to protect others if you have the virus. The risks of catching it outside, or whilst passing someone are extremely low. I don't bother in small shops either because I'm not in their long, I stand back as far as possible and as far as I know, not many other people are wearing them anyway. (I can hear if the owner has one on, he doesn't in one place. Another one he did.), I'm doing other sensible things, washing hands a lot, staying away from crowds. This whole I'm more taking it seriously than you thing is a bit tiresome.
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I don't wear mine in the street either; just put it on before I go into shops and take it off again to walk home - using hand sanitiser before touching it of course. As you say, the risk of contracting or passing on the virus from a passing encounter outside is miniscule, and they're not very nice to wear. I do agree with them being mandatory on public transport, though, and I could see a case for expanding that to some shops; not whilst infections are dropping as they seem to be now, but perhaps if they begin to rise again.
 
I don't blame anyone not wearing a mask because there's been no real moves to push them as a serious part of the solution here. I think that's a mistake though. All that crap about freedom - I'm not one of those who thinks we should all be locked down for months and I want to be able to get out and do stuff. Masks would be a tool to enable that if they were more commonly used, not a hindrance.
 
It would actually be amazing if it was compulsory for everyone to wear a mask in shops. That way those of us who have to work in shops and have done throughout the entirety of lockdown would feel a lot safer and more comfortable in our working environment because we wouldn't have to wear one ourselves. Masks are more for protecting other people rather than protecting yourself. Mind you this is Britain at the start of the 5th decade of neo liberalism so who gives a fuck about other people eh?
 
Last weekend I saw some rather natty cloth masks, apparently bought online.

I don't use public transport, do shop at a supermarket - perhaps 2% wear masks.

If it becomes the rule to wear one in shops & supermarkets I will need some, if that happens they will probably sell out.

eta: just bought some washable fabric masks from Etsy, one less thing to worry about.
 
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Roadkill said:
I don't wear mine in the street either; just put it on before I go into shops and take it off again to walk home - using hand sanitiser before touching it of course. As you say, the risk of contracting or passing on the virus from a passing encounter outside is miniscule, and they're not very nice to wear. I do agree with them being mandatory on public transport, though, and I could see a case for expanding that to some shops; not whilst infections are dropping as they seem to be now, but perhaps if they begin to rise again.
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Yeah, street is fine, though I still wear one anyway, but anywhere public indoors, get that mask on unless you’re medically exempt
 
I've not used a mask yet - am I a bad person? I will on public transport once I start using it again, probably next week.
I've considered whether I should have one for the supermarket but as hardly anyone else seems to be bothering, including most of the staff, and there's no clear information about whether they actually do any good, I've not done so.
 
Roadkill said:
I don't wear mine in the street either; just put it on before I go into shops and take it off again to walk home - using hand sanitiser before touching it of course. As you say, the risk of contracting or passing on the virus from a passing encounter outside is miniscule, and they're not very nice to wear. I do agree with them being mandatory on public transport, though, and I could see a case for expanding that to some shops; not whilst infections are dropping as they seem to be now, but perhaps if they begin to rise again.
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That's fair. Fortunately I don't have to go into supermarkets, which obviously means being inside with a larger range of random people.

Doctor Carrot said:
It would actually be amazing if it was compulsory for everyone to wear a mask in shops. That way those of us who have to work in shops and have done throughout the entirety of lockdown would feel a lot safer and more comfortable in our working environment because we wouldn't have to wear one ourselves. Masks are more for protecting other people rather than protecting yourself. Mind you this is Britain at the start of the 5th decade of neo liberalism so who gives a fuck about other people eh?
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Even if the public all war mmasks, shop staff would have to as well. Given that the mask protects others, not yourself. A shopworker is in doors dealing with a much greater range of foreign objects, random peple, fomites than one customer. But I don't expect shopworkers to wear a mask when I go in.
 
Doctor Carrot said:
It would actually be amazing if it was compulsory for everyone to wear a mask in shops. That way those of us who have to work in shops and have done throughout the entirety of lockdown would feel a lot safer and more comfortable in our working environment because we wouldn't have to wear one ourselves. Masks are more for protecting other people rather than protecting yourself. Mind you this is Britain at the start of the 5th decade of neo liberalism so who gives a fuck about other people eh?
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That said, I am with you on some posts you've made before. Re people coughing, not covering their mouths. Leaning across people and all that. I know I might sound like an inconsiderate arsehole to you but am totally against all of that behaviour.
 
Doctor Carrot said:
It would actually be amazing if it was compulsory for everyone to wear a mask in shops. That way those of us who have to work in shops and have done throughout the entirety of lockdown would feel a lot safer and more comfortable in our working environment because we wouldn't have to wear one ourselves. Masks are more for protecting other people rather than protecting yourself. Mind you this is Britain at the start of the 5th decade of neo liberalism so who gives a fuck about other people eh?
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Unfortunately I can't see it being made compulsory until the second wave happens, and until it's compulsory few enough people will do it that the ones who do won't matter. (I do, by the way, but not in the expectation that it will make a physical difference, just to normalise it and make others feel more comfortable in wearing masks.) No chain is going to be the first one to start.
 
BigDaftie said:
I don't wear a mask, i don't really see the point. If I had a cough I wouldn't be going to the shops anyway.
I met my neighbour the other day in the street and she was wearing a mask. I couldn't understand a word she was saying, it was all muffled. Imagine two folk in masks trying to have a conversation 😁
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I've managed it perfectly comfortably before.

And I think you're missing the point by a country ("o" optional :hmm:) mile - it's not just about protecting YOU, it's about interfering with the virus' ability to transmit between people, generally. There is a tendency towards a rather self-centred view in many people, rather than seeing taking these precautions as a contribution to the public good. You sound as if you're in the former camp.
 
Been wearing a mask all day at work (bike shop) for weeks. Also every time I go into any other shop, for weeks. It's fine. You get used to it. Even the 16 year old Saturday boy refusenik said to me today that he now feels a bit weird not wearing one. We haven't let a customer inside the shop since the start of lockdown and we've no intention of changing that at the moment, but what the Scottish Government has done with this announcement is empower shop workers to tell customers they can't come in without a face covering, and to empower them to insist on their colleagues wearing them. Everyone I know who works in a shop is delighted.
 
xenon said:
I'm not wearing a mask in the street until it's mandatory. Masks are still only to protect others if you have the virus. The risks of catching it outside, or whilst passing someone are extremely low. I don't bother in small shops either because I'm not in their long, I stand back as far as possible and as far as I know, not many other people are wearing them anyway. (I can hear if the owner has one on, he doesn't in one place. Another one he did.), I'm doing other sensible things, washing hands a lot, staying away from crowds. This whole I'm more taking it seriously than you thing is a bit tiresome.
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Not joined in with the masks discussion at all up until now, not on any thread ;)

But I do confess that I agree with most of the above.

Wales seems to be the least likely of any of the nations to compel or even recommend masks, not even on public transport

We've been on buses on two occasions only since March anyway.

They were almost empty both times, and with lots of seats blocked from use in any case, with prominent signs outside warning that a maximum of ten people (per single-decker) are allowed, here in Swansea.

I would guess that I've seen a maximum (?) of between 5% and 10% (absolute maximum 15%) of people wearing masks here -- supermarkets included.

I've bolded the things in xenon 's post above that I'm also very conscientious with at all times.

And I think people who proclaim their avoidance of masks for 'libertarian' (aka twattish) reasons, particularly in the US, are utter arseholes.

I certainly wouldn't ever rule out getting and using masks myself, and I'd look for sorted ones (such as any with cat or elephant designs :cool: ?? ).

But I've liked recent posts on both sides of the mask-argument in the recent discussion on this thread, because I'm genuinely torn about it :oops:
 
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Anyway. So, I dunno if anyone else saw it, but Johnson couldn't even keep up with his own desperate power phrases today. I found it simultaneously hilarious and massively fucking scary.
 
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