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What lockdown?

been to work today, people are stating to come back to my offices....
been shops and got a burger king, got my tyre changed at Kwickfit and now im home and watering the garden.

most pople seem to not give a fuck near me now
 
The thing is, if all your clothes were from Primark (because that's all you can afford) then a lot of them won't have lasted through lockdown. That's how fast fashion works.
Youngest has more than one pair of fashionably ripped jeans, somewhat illogically they were more expensive and came from more upmarket shops than her unripped pairs.
 
What lockdown?

been to work today, people are stating to come back to my offices....
been shops and got a burger king, got my tyre changed at Kwickfit and now im home and watering the garden.

most pople seem to not give a fuck near me now
I don't understand. You've been out and about doing stuff and you were annoyed to see other people out and about doing stuff?

Or have I misunderstood?
 
There was a huge queue outside Sports-fucking-Direct in Brixton today

Massive queues in Brixton as lockdown eases and shops reopen, Mon 15th June 2020


 
They were advertising 50% off for all NHS staff today.
Even if they were giving away stuff they'd still be a shitty company

 
Even if they were giving away stuff they'd still be a shitty company

Yes, but it might explain some of the queue.
 
Back at work for the second day (retail) and already so exasperated that there is no requirement for customers to wear face coverings. Yesterday someone promptly sneezed next to me without covering their sneeze in tissue or elbow, and someone just lengthily went about a complicated order for over 15 mins while coughing well covidy coughs and going "Haha, don't worry, just a tickly throat". FUCK OFF!!! It's at best massively insensitive and at worst a massive health hazard. He was talking to one of our managers who is the type to never stand up to a customer. I beat a hasty retreat to my lunch break, hoping the shop will air out over the next hour...
It's just not cool at all.
 
Back at work for the second day (retail) and already so exasperated that there is no requirement for customers to wear face coverings. Yesterday someone promptly sneezed next to me without covering their sneeze in tissue or elbow, and someone just lengthily went about a complicated order for over 15 mins while coughing well covidy coughs and going "Haha, don't worry, just a tickly throat". FUCK OFF!!! It's at best massively insensitive and at worst a massive health hazard. He was talking to one of our managers who is the type to never stand up to a customer. I beat a hasty retreat to my lunch break, hoping the shop will air out over the next hour...
It's just not cool at all.

I don't understand why masks aren't required in shops either. They should be, given that no fucker is actually distancing any more, not round our way anyway.

That's fucking shit behaviour zora , sorry you have to put up with that :(
 
Are you quarantining books that have been rummaged through? Though that sounds unmanageable. We’re only doing click n collect in my library but that will exclude a lot of customers
 
Nope not annoyed at all, just pointing out people don't seem to care much anymore near me.
Your doppelganger across town is probably saying the same thing about you.

I kind of file that alongside 'people complaining about how many people there were in the park when they went to the park'. As with the park people, I suspect the now-out-and-about-doing-stuff people won't have much of an effect on the decline in infection rates either.
 
Feels creepingly close to slipping into describing people's class by the brand of the jeans they wear here....
 
When you look at the deaths per head of population numbers, the UK is broadly similar to Spain and Italy. But these graphs show the Z-number which as I understand it is a way of measuring excess deaths. So why is Italy's peak less than half of the one for Spain or for England?

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from here Graphs and maps from EUROMOMO
 
When you look at the deaths per head of population numbers, the UK is broadly similar to Spain and Italy. But these graphs show the Z-number which as I understand it is a way of measuring excess deaths. So why is Italy's peak less than half of the one for Spain or for England?

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from here Graphs and maps from EUROMOMO
I've been suspicious of some of that data for a while. There is a totally unexplained anomaly in England as well, not mirrored at all in Wales or Scotland, which makes me suspect some problems with these things - probably not comparing like with like. It's not a great time for reliable statistics anywhere, tbh.
 
I worry that opening up general retail is a lot riskier than food retail and outdoor activities. We know the virus is mostly spread by touch. People shopping for non essentials do a lot of picking things up for a look and then putting them back again. In an enclosed space. This can’t be good.
 
When you look at the deaths per head of population numbers, the UK is broadly similar to Spain and Italy. But these graphs show the Z-number which as I understand it is a way of measuring excess deaths. So why is Italy's peak less than half of the one for Spain or for England?

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from here Graphs and maps from EUROMOMO

Go on, I'll have a guess. Though, lets face it, its almost certainly to do with the way the data is collected and presented.

Anyway, I remember something being said when Italy was first being hit hard that they had the 3rd oldest population in the world. Could this be a factor in that more of those who were dying in Italy may have reasonably been expected to die this year anyway?
 
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