Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[Orang Utan]

Do shut up, you uneducated potato.

That’s a bit unnecessary. You were a cunt to me the other day too and didn’t apologise.

 

[Petcha]

I’m confused as I filter my news by coming on here! Can I hug anyone yet?

Basically we can't go out on the pull just yet. But you can go look at meerkats in the zoo.

 

[killer b]

I’m confused as I filter my news by coming on here! Can I hug anyone yet?

If you live alone, you can have physical contact with one other person or household, as long as they don't have physical contact with anyone other than you. Or if you live as part of a household, one other person can have physical contact with people in your household, as long as they aren't having any physical contact with anyone else.

None of this applies to people who are shielding.

 

[Orang Utan]

If you live alone, you can have physical contact with one other person or household, as long as they don't have physical contact with anyone other than you. Or if you live as part of a household, one other person can have physical contact with people in your household, as long as they aren't having any physical contact with anyone else.

None of this applies to people who are shielding.

So no Tinder yet?

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

So my son, who works in a hospital as a waste porter and lives alone, is he allowed by the new rules to come and stay? Because if he is, the new rules mean that social distancing becomes almost meaningless imho

 

[killer b]

So no Tinder yet?

it's not totally impossible, but requires a level of commitment unlikely from a new acquaintance on a hook-up app.

 

[killer b]

So my son, who works in a hospital as a waste porter and lives alone, is he allowed by the new rules to come and stay? Because if he is, the new rules mean that social distancing becomes almost meaningless imho

yes he is. you might assess the risks differently though.

 

[phillm]

That was Vallance. Whitty just seems to be the only one who repeats caution.

Back in the day, Whitty would have been the first one to leave the pub after nursing a half of shandy for an hour. Nervously looking at his watch and saying I have to get back - things to do. Meanwhile, 2 hours later Johnson and chums would be destroying the place whilst bemoaning him for being a boring cunt. .

 

[Mation]

So how many people can I have sex with? Everyone in an enthusiastically consenting household?

(I live in a houseshare )

 

[littlebabyjesus]

So my son, who works in a hospital as a waste porter and lives alone, is he allowed by the new rules to come and stay? Because if he is, the new rules mean that social distancing becomes almost meaningless imho

I don't think it makes them meaningless. This rule actually makes sense for once. You basically nominate a household to which you now belong, and act from now on as one household (so all isolating if one is ill etc)

 

[Orang Utan]

So how many people can I have sex with? Everyone in an enthusiastically consenting household?

(I live in a houseshare )

6 at a time but only if they’re family

 

[killer b]

So how many people can I have sex with? Everyone in an enthusiastically consenting household?

(I live in a houseshare )

you can have sex with everyone in your household, and one other person - but the one other person is the only person outside of your household that anyone from inside it can have sex with, and they also aren't allowed to have sex with any other households.

 

[phillm]

So how many people can I have sex with? Everyone in an enthusiastically consenting household?

(I live in a houseshare )

Wanking is the gold standard of self-isolation. No doubt swingers forums are having heated mass debates as to how the hobby can be revived safely.

 

[Orang Utan]

We’re gonna have to start reproducing like fish

 

[Mation]

you can have sex with everyone in your household, and one other person - but the one other person is the only person outside of your household that anyone from inside it can have sex with, and they also aren't allowed to have sex with any other households.

I'd better call a house meeting.

 

[killer b]

I'd better call a house meeting.

take plenty of lube and condoms

 

[MickiQ]

So they just said on the news that all this bubble thing is based on the New Zealand system. Which they introduced weeks if not months ago. How the fuck do they have better scientists than us?

They don't but they don't have Johnson either

 

[William of Walworth]

I don't think it makes them meaningless. This rule actually makes sense for once. You basically nominate a household to which you now belong, and act from now on as one household (so all isolating if one is ill etc)

Utterly impossible to police, surely.

A lot of people will decide which 'other household' it's going to be depending on what they want to do and where they want to go on that day.

Then go somewhere else to see someone else, or invite somone else from somewhere else, the day or week after that.

 

[killer b]

It is impossible to police, but so really has been any of the other restrictions of lockdown - it relies on people acting within the guidelines out of choice.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Utterly impossible to police, surely.

A lot of people will decide which 'other household' it's going to be depending on what they want to do and where they want to go on that day.

Then go somewhere else to see someone else, or invite somone else from somewhere else, the day or week after that.

Of course it's impossible to police. Most aspects of physical distancing have been impossible to police.

 

[William of Walworth]

Of course it's impossible to police. Most aspects of physical distancing have been impossible to police.

Yes, I do see what you mean.
But today's new thing about bubbles struck me as particularly open to being stretched to meaninglessness.

 

[souljacker]

Yes, I do see what you mean.
But today's new thing about bubbles struck me as particularly open to being stretched to meaninglessness.

Only if you want to fuck shit up for yourself. If you follow the rules you'll probably be fine. If you stretch them, then you and others may actually die.

 

[Mation]

Sex aside, this is a nonsense.

Should I treat my housemates as a technical household or a health household? What if my housemates don't agree?

Technically (as in, we wouldn't count as one for the purpose of claiming benefits) we are not a household. We shop and cook for ourselves; have locks on the doors of our rooms; and pay our bills separately, via the landlord. Should we each choose a household to 'bubble' with? One with similar arrangements? Cos that would get out of hand pretty quickly.

Practically, we share utensils and kitchen stuff (although cleaning before and after); we keep our distance from each other except when we don't, because we have all been home for lockdown and haven't had anyone else over; we all quarantined when one had symptoms; we spend time together and sometimes make food to share. Should we pick one household between us all? (Impossible! We know different people.)

Regardless of what we decide amongst ourselves to do, what are we supposed to be doing??

 

[killer b]

Sex aside, this is a nonsense.

Should I treat my housemates as a technical household or a health household? What if my housemates don't agree?

Technically (as in, we wouldn't count as one for the purpose of claiming benefits) we are not a household. We shop and cook for ourselves; have locks on the doors of our rooms; and pay our bills separately, via the landlord. Should we each choose a household? With similar arrangements?

Practically, we share utensils and kitchen stuff (although cleaning before and after); we keep our distance from each other except when we don't, because we have all been home for lockdown and haven't had anyone else over; we all quarantined when one had symptoms; we spend time together and sometimes make food to share. Should we pick one household between us all? (Impossible!)

Regardless of what we decide amongst ourselves to do, what are we supposed to be doing??

You are a household, and can only have one other person into your bubble under the new lockdown restrictions, not one other household.

 

[killer b]

It is impractical. Apparently they wanted to relax it to allow any two households to form a bubble, but modelling suggested that would push the infection rate up too much.

 

[Mation]

You are a household, and can only have one other person into your bubble under the new lockdown restrictions, not one other household.

Yup. That's how I read it. Which is, as you say in your post below, impractical. To the point of being totally unworkable.

 

[William of Walworth]

But today's new thing about bubbles struck me as particularly open to being stretched to meaninglessness.

Only if you want to fuck shit up for yourself. If you follow the rules you'll probably be fine. If you stretch them, then you and others may actually die.

It's not myself, or festivaldeb, to whom you'd need to make that point

I was talking more generally about elements among the broader population.

Also, if people on here, most of us usually fairly clued up about stuff, were questioning exactly what was meant under the new edict, then there's bound to be a fair few others round and about who'll have even more trouble grasping the details.

As well as people who'll just not bother with today's bubble limitations, and wilfully won't bother

 

[Raheem]

Basically we can't go out on the pull just yet. But you can go look at meerkats in the zoo.

But don't touch.

 

[souljacker]

It's not myself to whom you need to make that point

I was talking more generally about elements among the broader population.

Also, if people on here, most of us usually fairly clued up about stuff, were questioning exactly what was meant under the new edict, then there's bound to be a fair few others round and about who'll have even more trouble grasping the details.

As well as people who'll just not bother with today's bubble limitations, and wilfully won't bother

Should have said oneself. Wasn't having a dig at you mate.

I do think it's quite clear though. Essentially, one household can let another household join them as if they were both in the same household. The 'extra' household can only be a single adult but can include any number of under 18s.

 

[killer b]

Yup. That's how I read it. Which is, as you say in your post below, impractical. To the point of being totally unworkable.

you can always just carry on as before if it's too difficult to decide who gets to visit I guess.