Minor anecdotal blah. Our office doesn't have aircon. It's a modern building, designed to be a bit more efficient I think. Maximum there's about 9 of us in at any one time, usually far fewer than that, often in on my own. As such we could probably easily do SD but not much actually requires us to be present in the office. Only inviting people in for meetings etc. We share facilities with other tenants though. I'll be interested to see if they renew the rent...
Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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Minor anecdotal blah. Our office doesn't have aircon. It's a modern building, designed to be a bit more efficient I think. Maximum there's about 9 of us in at any one time, usually far fewer than that, often in on my own. As such we could probably easily do SD but not much actually requires us to be present in the office. Only inviting people in for meetings etc. We share facilities with other tenants though. I'll be interested to see if they renew the rent...
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Mine have been really good. I mean, I wasn't like there every day.
but was going to carry on paying as it's local, the staff are good, I was just getting back into going before this. But they've suspended payments so far. People were happy to carry on and they've suggested they donate to a public defibrlator thing they're acquiring.Working out at home isn't the same. Well in a flat anyway. I miss the crosstrainers and stuff.
There was never any suggestion of that for most of us, which did puzzle me at first.
But then I thought about how my normal work is very paper (real post! actual documents!), and printing based, as well as PC based.
So maybe they decided the logistics of us WFH was all too complex, and data protection issue laden.
Another thing for me to ask about though, soon!
I'd be VERY happy to be working if required and I'm sure that a lot of my colleagues will be thinking similarly.
We don't know yet whether or not it will happen, and the difficulties of doing it in the offices will have to be taken into account.
ETA : And whether ir not WFH is even possible ... who knows?
Luckily, most of us are PCS, and their Covid newsletter emphasises how much the union insists on being involved with working conditions discussion.
But I'd be glad to work if able!
ETA : and if safe, obviously.
I'd been meaning to look for another, second job. Only work part time and could do with the cash. I'm hoping they might be taking on call centre / WFH type jobs for this contact tracing stuff, I'd do that.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
I've heard quite a bit of leakage during the lockdown. On the BBC News channel the presenter let slip that they would soon go the quarterlines, which turned out to be the headlines as presented at quarter past and quarter to the hour.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I have one, and I cancelled it before lock-down came it as it was obvious that was the sensible option. The gym suspended membership charges when lock-down started, I guess partly to makes sure people come back when things ease. I'm a keen gym goer, but I think it'll be the last thing that I go back to of that type tbh, especially as you say I'll have got used to other ways of exercising.
JimW
支那暗杀团
I suspect with some people they used it for the insider aura but suppose that's gone now it's mainstream.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
It's going to be like getting a Tesco delivery slot isn't it.
Let's hope it's just initial teething problems of a new system.
I'm not confident though
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I wonder how many requests they decided was too much, or how many it took to crash the website. Assuming they expect to get to 100,000 a day I would have expected the site should have been able to take massive numbers. Would be interesting to know how many caused it to be withdrawn if that is what happened.
clicker
nanook rubs it....
Yes and at the last minute it'll be substituted for an eye test.
Callie
Pivoting
It's entirely possible they overestimated how useful/practical/necessary it was for NHS staff and have underestimated the need for all keyworkers?
I wonder how they manage inappropriate testing? This test may not be suitable/appropriate for those who have been ill in the past but are well now for example
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Thanks for pointing out the air-conditioning aspect -- I'd not thought of that at all, to be honest
In itself, that may make it a fair bit less likely that we're asked back in.
So maybe they'll have WFH plans?
Those would require a works laptop (and probably other bits) to be sent to me, as their policy is only to trust people to work outside works HQ with works IT, understandably.
You've given me more questions to ask now anyway, if I do get the call.
Cheers
most air conditioning brings in air from outside, it’s usually only on planes etc. where you have a closed system. Otherwise oxygen depletion might be an issue! I believe most systems also have decent filtration.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Whatever, it is now down which doesn't fill one with confidence.
Yes, indeed, except if you had the virus, you might want to know you were clear so you could return to work no?
editor
hiraethified
Planes are surprisingly safe compared to offices etc
You are no more likely to get coronavirus on an airplane than in any other crowded space
But whatever you're doing, make sure you wash your hands.
qz.com
I was idly wondering that just now.
If this test booking site is aimed only for NHS and other designated key workers, how the hell do they control who's able to log on and who's not??
Urbans with inside or user knowledge of this thing?
Cheers, that's a very fair point.
But if we're not put on WFH, that factor is something I will ask about at our place, because our building isn't very new at all ... and I've no idea whether or not the air conditioning was refurbished when all the office interiors were redone.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Apologies, my response to you was out of order.
I'm a little stressed out and scared at being responsible for my own safety and that of my team, all of whom have loved ones at home we are concerned we might infect, and while it sometimes appears that much of the population is going about oblivious to that, enjoying the sunshine as if it's just an extended holiday.
Your post maybe triggered something of that, but it was wrong to direct my feelings at you in that way.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
No worries - we're all doing our best to deal with a very bad and uncertain situation.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
I put my details on the site at 7:30 this morning, haven’t had any kind of text or email back. My son had a serious fever two weeks ago (but no other symptoms other than a couple of days of splutttery coughs), and although I haven’t had any definite signs of infection (I did move out for a week when he got sick) I have been very tired with muscle aches and occasional headaches so wanted to be sure I’m OK. It’s possibly just the effects of my Crohns which is kicking off a bit at the moment or from having crap sleep.
Work are asking me about coming in to do a few tasks (safety critical stuff that nobody else could pick up easily) which I’m into doing if I can, and having the reassurance I’m not contagious would make that possible. I’m actually in the shielding group but generally well and would be going into the building late on a Sunday with nobody else having been there for 48 hours so minimal risk with a bit of PPE.
Work are asking me about coming in to do a few tasks (safety critical stuff that nobody else could pick up easily) which I’m into doing if I can, and having the reassurance I’m not contagious would make that possible. I’m actually in the shielding group but generally well and would be going into the building late on a Sunday with nobody else having been there for 48 hours so minimal risk with a bit of PPE.
I think this is one thing we all should try and bear in mind - literally everyone is struggling with this, even people who might seem not to be.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
TBH I've been pretty impressed with Urban75 over this. Maybe it's because we are in general the kind of site where we argue on one thread and agree on another thread, and occasionally tell each other to fuck off, then also support each other when times are bad, like a messy argumentative family, but I've seen a lot of examples of people saying something slightly mean under stress, being called on it mildly without being piled on, apologising, and that's it. It's nice
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I think the lack of testing so far makes the actual testing regime less workable, in the sense that there isn't an orderly, managed and 'educated' queue. Don't mean people are 'uneducated' but that there isn't a commonly understood/established set of criteria as to whether you should book a test. The vast, vast majority of people seeking a test will be doing it for very real and very important reasons. But there's going to be an element of panic or uncertainty. I'm not a key worker, but to take me as an example, I had a very weird dry cough that came and went for 24 hours, along with a worsening of my fybromyalgia. I'm 90+% certain it wasn't the virus, though there's an outside chance I had the virtually symptom free version. Didn't make much difference as I'm working from home and we've been just about self isolating anyway. But... not about me 
, you could imagine a fair few people who have had a similar minor non-event might now be rushing for a test. Again, that's not people being irrational - it's actually a rational thing to do at the individual level - but the government's shitshow on testing has led to everything being an unmanaged mess. Tests are now where bog rolls were 6 weeks ago.
, you could imagine a fair few people who have had a similar minor non-event might now be rushing for a test. Again, that's not people being irrational - it's actually a rational thing to do at the individual level - but the government's shitshow on testing has led to everything being an unmanaged mess. Tests are now where bog rolls were 6 weeks ago.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Shorter way of saying all that is that testing and contact tracing should have been top priority from the start. Doing it now makes it less effective and less targeted.I think the lack of testing so far makes the actual testing regime less workable, in the sense that there isn't an orderly, managed and 'educated' queue. Don't mean people are 'uneducated' but that there isn't a commonly understood/established set of criteria as to whether you should book a test. The vast, vast majority of people seeking a test will be doing it for very real and very important reasons. But there's going to be an element of panic or uncertainty. I'm not a key worker, but to take me as an example, I had a very weird dry cough that came and went for 24 hours, along with a worsening of my fybromyalgia. I'm 90+% certain it wasn't the virus, though there's an outside chance I had the virtually symptom free version. Didn't make much difference as I'm working from home and we've been just about self isolating anyway. But... not about me
20Bees
Well-Known Member
I work in a supermarket and the link to apply for key worker tests was on our staff intranet this morning. The notification states that it is for ‘key workers with symptoms of Corornavirus, and people who live with them and have symptoms’. It is not aimed at key workers simply because they are key workers. I wonder if all this morning’s applicants do actually have symptoms, or live with someone who does (I don’t).
2hats
Dust.
Quite. It appears, at this time, to be the viral RNA PCR swab test and not a serological AB test. So will come back positive (most of the time, if performed correctly) for those currently infected and for some post-infection. It won't identify all those who have been infected in the past. It will tell you nothing about the state of your immune system and degree of immunity.
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