Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[cupid_stunt]

PM begs England to 'please, please be careful' as he braces for catastrophe

The Prime Minister dramatically shifted his tone in a desperate last-minute plea - despite giving the green light to a 'Freedom Day' that could send cases surging as high as 200,000 a day

www.mirror.co.uk

Just demonstrates how little goes on in his head, announce freedom day, then basically beg people not to take advantage of it.

 

[tommers]

Christ. This is all so inept.

 

[glitch hiker]

Tesco this am was about the same as it has been. A couple of maskless twats. Till person wasn't masked though she usually is so perhaps it was just reasons. Others, including myself, were masked. Fortuantely it wasn't very busy at all. Am curious as to what the local shops will be like, will find out shortly.​

 

[miss direct]

Aren't your cashiers behind screens? I care less about them being unmasked if they're behind a screen. And let's hope the screens stay for now.

 

[quimcunx]

Aren't your cashiers behind screens? I care less about them being unmasked if they're behind a screen. And let's hope the screens stay for now.

The screens arent of much use at all.

 

[brogdale]

Even Murdoch getting YG to poll can't produce anything other than a resounding no:



That persistent 1/3 of cunts in this country.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Aren't your cashiers behind screens? I care less about them being unmasked if they're behind a screen. And let's hope the screens stay for now.

Screens are on a par with wearing face shields, without a mask, they are both fairly pointless, covid aerosols floating in the air will easily get around a piece of plastic, I seem to remember face shields on their own, give around only 2% protection.

 

[miss direct]

I suppose I'm thinking of someone sneezing/coughing - I'd rather there be a screen than not. I get the point though.

 

[bimble]

Friend told me that this morning dropping her kids off at school there was just one lone parent going yay no masks happy freedom day and everyone else was wearing one and told her to duck right off. So that’s good.

 

[cupid_stunt]

...told her to duck right off.

Did you type duck, or was that auto-correct?

 

[bimble]

Did you type duck, or was that auto-correct?

autocorrect but i have stopped bothering to change it now. Its fine, not often misunderstood.

 

[prunus]

autocorrect but i have stopped bothering to change it now. Its fine, not often misunderstood.

Fancy coming over for a duck in orange sauce?

 

[emanymton]

I was in Sainsbury's this morning at 7, which is when it opens. I usually go at that time because it's quiet. Everyone in there was masked up, the signs saying to wear a mask were still there, as well as the hand sanitising stations. The one difference I noticed was that there was no one clocking you in and out and the chicane to get in had been done away with.

I suppose it's no surprise that everyone who was there at that time was masked up, because to go in so early probably means you're quite risk averse to start with.

Hardly online on the bus this morning was wearing one and the same in shops cafes etc. Maybe around 20% and 0% for the staff I have seen. What has shocked me a bit is that all the NHS track and track has been pulled down so you can't scan the app even if you want to. I didn't know that was ending today. I have also noticed that a places that had screens up looked to have pulled them down already. I was expecting a massive drop in mask wearing but I am a bit shocked just how much of a return to normal it feels.

I have just popped out to grab a sandwich and a coffee for lunch, there're 6 members of staff working in close proximity and not one with a mask on. All the signs about social distancing are gone so there is nothing to stop people sitting more or less on top of each other.

 

[prunus]

Hardly online on the bus this morning was wearing one and the same in shops cafes etc. Maybe around 20% and 0% for the staff I have seen. What has shocked me a bit is that all the NHS track and track has been pulled down so you can't scan the app even if you want to. I didn't know that was ending today. I have also noticed that a places that had screens up looked to have pulled them down already. I was expecting a massive drop in mask wearing but I am a bit shocked just how much of a return to normal it feels.

I have just popped out to grab a sandwich and a coffee for lunch, there're 6 members of staff working in close proximity and not one with a mask on. All the signs about social distancing are gone so there is nothing to stop people sitting more or less on top of each other.

Well, if that’s replicated over the country then all the government’s modelling goes out of the window. I think they’re relying on a ‘gradual’ return. We’ll see I guess.

 

[emanymton]

Well, if that’s replicated over the country then all the government’s modelling goes out of the window. I think they’re relying on a ‘gradual’ return. We’ll see I guess.

What a shock.

Like I said I expected a big drop in mask wearing. But there is no evidence we are in the middle of a pandemic in the places I have seen, besides a few customers wearing masks. I know the screens don't much but they at least communicate the need to be careful and I am quite shocked they have gone already.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

At work today I'd say 95% of customers were wearing masks and 85% of the staff.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I'm at my usual home office spot but my Dad tells me he's been to the supermarket this morning and only saw one couple without masks - everyone else had one on.

 

[emanymton]

From where I am sat I can see 8 customers and 5 staff members. 1 person is wearing a mask. Last week it would have been 1 or 2 without.

 

[xenon]

autocorrect but i have stopped bothering to change it now. Its fine, not often misunderstood.

I often use dictation to post my gems of wisdom. It always gets the swear words right, which I'm not sure says anything good about me.

 

[Supine]

Fancy coming over for a duck in orange sauce?

saucy!

 

[emanymton]

From where I am sat I can see 8 customers and 5 staff members. 1 person is wearing a mask. Last week it would have been 1 or 2 without.

May have picked a bad time for my little audit. As I was typing 2 mask wearers walked in so a little better.

 

[miss direct]

And of course my housemate chose to appear while I was making a coffee and give me a cheery "happy freedom day"...she got a bit of a mouthful back I'm afraid, as just off the phone from my Mum, who is now self isolating.

 

[elbows]

There is something about Scotlands approach that I find very insidious.

 

[elbows]

Theres a wee bit more virus around at the moment, dont worry, we've got patronising tips for ye.

 

[Pickman's model]

There is something about Scotlands approach that I find very insidious.

it's the sort of tweet that should be written in comic sans

 

[Artaxerxes]

Theres a wee bit more virus around at the moment, dont worry, we've got patronising tips for ye.

It's that pally wally faux cutesy manner of talking to you like your a child you see on Pret or Innocent smoothie adverts

Glad the advertising industry still has work

 

[elbows]

Oh well at least Labour arent sitting on the fence.

We've got more from Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer now, who accuses the Conservative government of getting "virtually every big decision wrong" in its response to Covid.

He says: "During this pandemic, government decisions have been a matter of life and death - good decisions have had the power to save thousands of lives, bad decisions have led to tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths, so we all need the government to succeed in this pandemic.

That's why supporting the government during the pandemic was the right thing to do for the country, but the truth is the Tories have got virtually every big decision wrong, either in substance, in timing or both."

Starmer says the PM's “chaotic” leadership style is “dangerous” and has “deadly consequences for the country”, “undermines” public safety during the pandemic, and “puts lives at risk”.

He goes on to say that today's lifting of all restrictions in England is “reckless” and “Labour does not support the plan.”

From 13:04 entry of BBC live updates page https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-57864699

Given that Labours sense of timing isnt always the best either, the tories will be hoping for an early peak so that new childish options of mocking peoples gloomy expectations become available.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Cry me a river, it's a bit late to start paddling to put distance between themselves & government.

 

[elbows]

Yeah 'opposition' timing in this pandemic suffers the same timing flaws as many other things - if you wait till the data fully demonstrates the scale of the problem, you've left it too late.

As I've been saying for more than two months, it was step 3 where a lot of the danger lurked. Step 3 got us to this point of horror, not step 4.

And it is not like I magically came up with this theory on my own, a huge chunk of my impressions about this came from SAGE modelling. Probably from early May (I forget right now).

 

[kabbes]

There is something about Scotlands approach that I find very insidious.

It’s “humaneering”, is why:

From its Modernist beginnings, social psychology has had what Tiffin et al. (1940) termed a ‘humaneering’ mission:

The value of learning more about ourselves and human nature is obvious. Our social, political and economic theories rest ultimately upon our understanding of human nature. Upon sound knowledge of human nature depends the possibility of directing social changes, so as to make social institutions and practices better suited to human needs. As citizens, then, we need to make our beliefs about human nature as sound and rational as possible. The nineteenth century was marked by great achievements in engineering. Advances in psychology, sociology, andhysiology should lead to as striking advances in ‘humaneering’ during the twentieth century.

(Tiffin et al. 1940: 23–4)

Critical social psychologists would agree that social psychologists have a duty to ‘change the world’. However, they are often highly critical of institutionalized social psychology.

(Taken from this book: ftp://117.239.47.98/MBA/Ebooks/Social%20Psychology.pdf )