Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[nyxx]

I posted this on my FB feed after wading through a deluge of doomy posts from self-professed lockdown experts insisting that everything is going to go wrong:

"Can all you Covid doom merchants just fucking zip it for a day? No one knows if the lockdown easing plan is going to work or stay on schedule, but how about you let people enjoy a few moments of happiness hoping it will? "

You’ve no right to tell other people how and when to express their thoughts and feelings on this.

If what I feel as a response to the announcement is fear and sadness at the likely consequences of that announcement, I’m as entitled to share those feelings as anyone else is.

All the people celebrating the announcements does compound the anxiety and dread for those of us who see it as populist driven madness which will result of more mass death and continuing the cycle of lockdowns due to failure to control the virus.

If that turns out to be wrong, I’ll be very very very happy. But this is what it looks like to me right now and I’ve as much right and responsibility as the next person to be open about it.

 

[editor]

You’ve no right to tell other people how and when to express their thoughts and feelings on this.

I've every right to express a personal opinion, thanks very much. Strange though that you seem to think that you have a right to tell me how I can express my thoughts and feelings on this.

 

[nyxx]

I've every right to express a personal opinion, thanks very much. Strange though that you seem to think that you have a right to tell me how I can express my thoughts and feelings on this.

You weren’t just “expressing an opinion” though, you were delivering an imperative to those who had a different response to you to keep it to themselves.

 

[editor]

You weren’t just “expressing an opinion” though, you were delivering an imperative to those who had a different response to you to keep it to themselves.

Yes. I was delivering an imperative with all the massive authority that comes with a Facebook post. Please give me a 'few moments of happiness' I demanded. Two days ago.

 

[nyxx]

So your opinion is that everyone who disagreed with you should shut the fuck up....and this is your response....

Wow.

I've every right to express a personal opinion, thanks very much. Strange though that you seem to think that you have a right to tell me how I can express my thoughts and feelings on this.

 

[nyxx]

Yes. I was delivering an imperative with all the massive authority that comes with a Facebook post. Please give me a 'few moments of happiness' I demanded. Two days ago.

Oh, my apologies for not catching up on this thread on a daily basis.

Fwiw I’ve been out for the count with flu for 2 days. Is that acceptable? Are there exceptions to this invisible rule over when one can respond to posts on this thread by?

 

[editor]

Over 60s can book their Covid-19 appointments now!

Over 60s can book their NHS Covid-19 vaccination appointments online NOW!

If you’re over 60 and still waiting to get a date for your Covid-19 vaccination jabs, the good news is that you can go online now and immediately book appointments for your two doses.

www.brixtonbuzz.com

 

[Wilf]

Over 60s can book their Covid-19 appointments now!

Over 60s can book their NHS Covid-19 vaccination appointments online NOW!

If you’re over 60 and still waiting to get a date for your Covid-19 vaccination jabs, the good news is that you can go online now and immediately book appointments for your two doses.

www.brixtonbuzz.com

Cheers for that, I've just booked it for Monday (though my brain's immediately gone into 'should I have waited a bit to get that one rather than that one' mode + ). I'm aware this is a logistical nightmare, but I'm also surprised they've opened it to over 60s so quickly. Regional variations aside, they can't have got all of the 65+ and vulnerable 18-64 year olds done yet?

 

[zora]

Cheers for that, I've just booked it for Monday (though my brain's immediately gone into 'should I have waited a bit to get that one rather than that one' mode + ). I'm aware this is a logistical nightmare, but I'm also surprised they've opened it to over 60s so quickly. Regional variations aside, they can't have got all of the 65+ and vulnerable 18-64 year olds done yet?

I imagine the main priority is that no availabe vaccine doses and vaccination slots go unused, and if someone in a slightly higher category gets their jab a few days later is neither here nor there. (That's assuming that if someone from a higher priority group tries to book, they will be given priority for an asap slot)?

The vaccines are both good, no need to worry too much about which one I don't think, especially given that it's not a lifetime thing, and we will likely be needing and getting top-ups/different ones next year or whenever.

 

[Chilli.s]

A friend has had to go to europe for work, had to have a negative test certificate within 72 hours of their flight and then quarantine on arrival for 2 weeks and another test. A letter saying that they are working has to be carried and shown and forms filled in with accommodation addresses, follow up phone calls to check compliance. One of their colleagues has spat out their dummy and fled back to the UK, no test required and no other restrictions on arrival. What a shitshow.

 

[Wilf]

I imagine the main priority is that no availabe vaccine doses and vaccination slots go unused, and if someone in a slightly higher category gets their jab a few days later is neither here nor there. (That's assuming that if someone from a higher priority group tries to book, they will be given priority for an asap slot)?

The vaccines are both good, no need to worry too much about which one I don't think, especially given that it's not a lifetime thing, and we will likely be needing and getting top-ups/different ones next year or whenever.

TBH, I just clicked into the nearest vax site and clicked on the first date (this Monday). Every day from Monday looked to be 'clickable' so it didn't look like it was a random bit of oversupply. I was just surprised to see that over 60s could get slots so soon after they started on over 65s and vulnerable 18-64s. Maybe each region has a degree of flexibility about how they process things to get the maximum number through?

 

[nyxx]

I know a couple of vulnerble 18-64 year olds who haven't got an appointment yet, but they might not be too far off.

I did hear about over 70's & 18-64 vulnerable ppl in a rural area who hadn't been offered it yet and there wasn't going to be any more doses supplied until March. It's possible that situation has been resolved since I last heard anything, not sure.

I think it's varying by region a heck of a lot.

 

[MJ100]

Of all the things that Urban is, one thing it is not is an echo chamber. That is just a cheap attempt to write off many opposing views as a clique, when all they really have in common is their disagreement with your views.

Maybe read some of my posts where you'll find out that I actually agree with plenty of views held here. Just because I don't agree with every single one of them doesn't mean I'm making any attempt to write them off. Would be nice if you could do the same in return, no? Otherwise if you only listen to views that coincide with yours, then yes, you are in an echo chamber, whether you believe it or not.

 

[MJ100]

Time to get out of your echo chamber and explore the site a bit.

So Urban is not an echo chamber, but by reading this thread, where I disagree with some of the views but agree with others, I'm in an echo chamber? Uh...ok then?

 

[Raheem]

How can Urban be an echo chamber when everyone here agrees it isn't?

 

[two sheds]

I'm not sure I agree it isn't

 

[Raheem]

I'm not sure I agree it isn't

Missing comma, I presume.

 

[two sheds]

ellipsis

 

[William of Walworth]

I'm not sure I agree it isn't

Why are you not echoingly subscribing to the monothought clique about this, then?

 

[William of Walworth]

TBH, I just clicked into the nearest vax site and clicked on the first date (this Monday). Every day from Monday looked to be 'clickable' so it didn't look like it was a random bit of oversupply. I was just surprised to see that over 60s could get slots so soon after they started on over 65s and vulnerable 18-64s. Maybe each region has a degree of flexibility about how they process things to get the maximum number through?

I wish that was more evident here in Wales ..... here, from what I'm picking up, things are progressing more slowly ....
</tries very hard to suppress impatience >

I'm in category 6 ('vulnerable 18-64s'), and my phone remains stubbornly silent ........

 

[Smangus]

So Urban is not an echo chamber, but by reading this thread, where I disagree with some of the views but agree with others, I'm in an echo chamber? Uh...ok then?

Looks like you completely miss the point.

 

[Raheem]

I'm in category 6 ('vulnerable 18-64s'), and my phone remains stubbornly silent ........

My mum's category 5, and she had hers a few days ago.

 

[William of Walworth]

My mum's category 5, and she had hers a few days ago.

Is she in Wales?

Good on her anyway

 

[Raheem]

Is she in Wales?

Good on her anyway

Yes, she's in Wales. I know sometimes I post pointless things, but give me some credit!

 

[MJ100]

Looks like you completely miss the point.

If you say so.

 

[William of Walworth]

Yes, she's in Wales. I know sometimes I post pointless things, but give me some credit!

I do get that, and your mum living in Wales was exactly the logical conclusion from what you posted .... but I didn't know, which is why I wanted to ask.

It's great that she got the appointment anyway

 

[zahir]

Assessing the risks of a policy of living with the virus.

Collective Action to Personal Responsibility: The Big COVID Leap of Faith the Government Wants Us All to Make

Adam Hamdy considers how the public is to realistically assess its own risk from the Coronavirus and ‘live with it’

bylinetimes.com

 

[Wilf]

I'm in category 6 ('vulnerable 18-64s'), and my phone remains stubbornly silent ........

Does the link Ed posted not work for Wales William? I appreciate that might be the case, it's just that it didn't say 'NHS England' or similar on the link. Anyway, hope you get sorted soon.

 

[Numbers]

My mum's category 5, and she had hers a few days ago.

I’m category 9 and got a text to book on Tuesday, so did my wife.

 

[emanymton]

Is lockdown wearing off in Greater Manchester?

The latest data shows Greater Manchester's rate remains much higher than England's

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Anyone got any thoughts on why this is happening?

Most of the reason given in the article would probably apply to large parts of London as well.