brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Don't count on the income; can't see how they can take place tbh.
Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Yup, agreed
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I mean breaking the rules by having a party and putting people at risk is shit. But ffs, it doesn't need or deserve a daily briefing to the whole country. Fucking joke.
Does anyone know where the money goes to out of interest? To the NHS?
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
No, not specifically, but probably straight into the general income pot at the treasury.
From a purely PR perspective it might be nice if they said it was going to the NHS directly.
maomao
普費斯
That would either be a lie or cost more to administrate than it raised.
Well. We're apparently currently saving £350m a week for the NHS post Brexit, so the govt has a fairly flexible attitude when it comes to this kind of thing.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
And £ millions from not having to pay the pensions of those who have died from covid
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Is anyone watching the interview with Labour's Shadow Home Secretary on C4 news - fuck he's crap, if you were trying to create a stereotype of a politician this is the prick that you'd create.
To paraphrase Nanni Moretti "just say something with a policy"
- "Would you close nurseries"
- "we've already said that the government needs to look at that".
To paraphrase Nanni Moretti "just say something with a policy"
Does anyone even know who that is? I have no idea... (And is that why redsquirrel gave their role rather than their name..?)
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
I just looked it up. I've never even heard of the guy. Was pleased to see he studied PPE at Oxford though as they're really under-represented in Parliament. And an Owen Smith-ite for good measure
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mauvais
on reddit or something
Ministers consider paying £500 to everyone with Covid in England
Exclusive: universal payment is ‘preferred position’ of DHSC in effort to help people self-isolate
A bit of an incentive to
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
someone from SPI-B on BBC news now saying he is waiting for the data from the governement that show him those large pockets of non compliance the fines are for...
and a lot more along those lines, and the lack of support for people in financially vulnerable positions
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
Edinburgh university is not having face to face teaching for the whole of this academic year
www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
No Edinburgh University undergrads in the capital until at least September after extension to online learning announced
Edinburgh University has announced that all undergraduate learning will remain online until April 2, 2021, when the academic year concludes.
www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
Cloo
Banana for scale
Yes, it seems to be there's more of a problem with employers demanding people come in when told to isolate or even after a positive test. But can't fine them, they're prosperity makers!
Went for my vaccine today. Had to wait 28 days post covid. It was quite moving. There was a whole team: from greeter, consent forms, then down to the big hall subdivided by screens, guided to correct station, vaccine, then got given a piece of paper with time I could leave, sat and waited in another subdivided seat. Staffed by the all so familiar cast of NHS employees.
I thought what an amazing achievement, a national effort; of science, the NHS, and Government.
I thought what an amazing achievement, a national effort; of science, the NHS, and Government.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Maybe less of the latter, mind. Could have gone so much better without this uncaring lot
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
My mother volunteered to do admin, "stewarding" etc at the GP centre down here. She was there the first day. She was horrified at how long it took and how badly organised it was and walked away.
Anyway, she went for her vaccination today, at the same place - everything went like clockwork - said she was in and out in 10 mins (yes, I know, 15min observation period).
all of which just shows - no-one has dealt with anything like this before. No one knew how to do it. The first few days were always going to be a mess, but once everyone had figured it out, it's now going really well.
Thanks, as ever, to the scientists, health workers, volunteers and logistics people.
Concerning the South Wales-wide famous Shadow Home Secretary ...
I could have won a (Zoom) pub-quiz prize for knowing this man's name
That doesn't help me feel better about anything though ....
Sue said:
I could have won a (Zoom) pub-quiz prize for knowing this man's name
That doesn't help me feel better about anything though ....
Fair play to the NHS as you say
But if 'The Government'/Matt Hancock were fully in charge, you can bet your life that the vaccination programmes would be going as badly as the Track-and-Trace Serco-malarkey
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mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
Wasn't there a daily briefing when they rolled out an Army logistics officer? It was sort of "look, it's OK, we haven't outsourced this to Hermes, the Army are doing the logistics". If they have got something right at last, Thank fuck.Fair play to the NHS as you say
But if 'The Government'/Matt Hancock were fully in charge, you can bet your life that the vaccination prgrammes would be going as badly as the Track-and-Trace Serco-malarkey
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
If the army had taken charge and got something right Johnson would be a bullet-riddled corpse on whitehall
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
More people have died of the virus than there are soldiers in the army
elbows
Well-Known Member
If I remember properly, press conference questions from Laura Kuenssberg at some stage of the first lockdown were one of the reasons I ranted about the media getting lockdown fatigue well before the public did.
Well, here we go again:
Oh piss off. When, oh when will the fucking stupid questions end? I asked my arse and it would not give an answer fit to print.
Elsewhere in the article there are some vaguely intreguing teases about how the tories are realising that economic life support is something that they will be stuck with delivering for probably a long time to come.
But there is also a typical lingering misinterpretation of something Johnson said back in the first wave when the first lockdown was finally upon us.
In fact his turn the tide comments were supposed to provide some indication to the masses of the sort of length of time that was likely to pass before the government would start really pushing a reopening agenda. ie it was the closest they were going to get to telling everyone how long they thought the first lockdown might last. As it turned out their ambitions to reopen some stuff at that point was thwarted, and some other aspects of relaxing/reopening got dragged out some extra weeks, but in other respects the 12 week comments were a reasonable rough guide.
It is fair to say that Johnsons 12 weeks stuff was misleading if people didnt pick up on its primary purpose, especially if they thought that the pandemic would be dealt with in one big initial wave. And plenty of the rhetoric before, during and after the first lockdown was designed to give the impression that subsequent lockdowns were not the plan or the most likely future, whilst quite deliberately refusing to ruling them out if necessary. But the thing about language involving waves and tides is that it does rather have the concept of things repeating on a cycle baked in!
Well, here we go again:
Covid: Politicians reluctant to hint at lockdown end date
As each day passes, pressure grows on the government to extend the emergency coronavirus support.
www.bbc.co.uk
Oh piss off. When, oh when will the fucking stupid questions end? I asked my arse and it would not give an answer fit to print.
Elsewhere in the article there are some vaguely intreguing teases about how the tories are realising that economic life support is something that they will be stuck with delivering for probably a long time to come.
But there is also a typical lingering misinterpretation of something Johnson said back in the first wave when the first lockdown was finally upon us.
In fact his turn the tide comments were supposed to provide some indication to the masses of the sort of length of time that was likely to pass before the government would start really pushing a reopening agenda. ie it was the closest they were going to get to telling everyone how long they thought the first lockdown might last. As it turned out their ambitions to reopen some stuff at that point was thwarted, and some other aspects of relaxing/reopening got dragged out some extra weeks, but in other respects the 12 week comments were a reasonable rough guide.
It is fair to say that Johnsons 12 weeks stuff was misleading if people didnt pick up on its primary purpose, especially if they thought that the pandemic would be dealt with in one big initial wave. And plenty of the rhetoric before, during and after the first lockdown was designed to give the impression that subsequent lockdowns were not the plan or the most likely future, whilst quite deliberately refusing to ruling them out if necessary. But the thing about language involving waves and tides is that it does rather have the concept of things repeating on a cycle baked in!
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Sensible thing to do. The managerial wankers at my place go on about having a 'nimble approach', so they can 'pivot' towards classroom teaching and back to online depending on government announcements. All of which means there has to be some kind of audit of modules to see that what is being proposed each time meets 'quality thresholds' or, increasingly, idiotic promises made last Summer about on campus teaching. Massive amounts of pissing about and major stresses for staff and students. It's been obvious since the late Summer that there was never a cat in hells chance of there being anything like a normal teaching year. Universities, individually and collectively, should have made it clear to government and applicants that they were going to be online all year.Edinburgh university is not having face to face teaching for the whole of this academic year
No Edinburgh University undergrads in the capital until at least September after extension to online learning announced
Edinburgh University has announced that all undergraduate learning will remain online until April 2, 2021, when the academic year concludes.
Another thing that came out of the Drosten podcast yesterday was that the voices calling for a zero/very low covid strategy are currently getting more serious airtime in Germany.
Mind you, Devi Shridhar and others here have also increasingly featured in the news recently, it seems to me.
Just spotted on Twitter that Christina Pagel co-signed a letter in the Lancet that promotes that strategy as European wide-effort.
An ambitious 10 new cases per day per 1 million (!) as the goal.
It is really pretty shit that there are already murmurings from Johnson about restrictions not being significantly lifted before summer, yet without the political will to actually use these six months (plus, god only knows what's going to happen after that) of the current pretty severe shutdown and restrictions to radically bring numbers down.
I can't really see it in Germany and indeed not as a continental Europe-wide thing either, though certainly in Germany the emergence of the UK variant and its implications seems to have focussed minds a bit...
Mind you, Devi Shridhar and others here have also increasingly featured in the news recently, it seems to me.
Just spotted on Twitter that Christina Pagel co-signed a letter in the Lancet that promotes that strategy as European wide-effort.
Contain COVID-19
containcovid-pan.eu
An ambitious 10 new cases per day per 1 million (!) as the goal.
It is really pretty shit that there are already murmurings from Johnson about restrictions not being significantly lifted before summer, yet without the political will to actually use these six months (plus, god only knows what's going to happen after that) of the current pretty severe shutdown and restrictions to radically bring numbers down.
I can't really see it in Germany and indeed not as a continental Europe-wide thing either, though certainly in Germany the emergence of the UK variant and its implications seems to have focussed minds a bit...
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Snap, wankers at ours have obviously been reading the same book.
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