Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[cupid_stunt]

Another record for daily reported new cases - 58,784

That's 383,834 in the last 7 days, up 49.8%

New deaths reported - 404.

 

[Pickman's model]

Brown thunder more like, lest we forget Mark Oaten

yeh - if they had a brown logo

 

[Pickman's model]

Another record for daily reported new cases - 58, 784

#worldbeating

 

[frogwoman]

58?

 

[Wilf]

Keir Starmer has finally woken up, calling for all schools to be closed as part of national restrictions.

That itself is a shift from yesterday I think. Yesterday's Forensic Sensible-ism was National Lockdown and, errr, something something about schools.

 

[redsquirrel]

That itself is a shift from yesterday I think. Yesterday's Forensic Sensible-ism was National Lockdown and, errr, something something about schools.

Just beaten to it by Jeremy Hunt and the Conservative leader of Kent County Council

 

[Wilf]

Britain is fucking weird.

Presume there's an element of (finally) getting brexit done in that poll. Well, I hope to fuck it's a not a statement of what we as a country think about their handling of the pandemic. But still, FFS!

 

[danny la rouge]

How many deaths does it take? - Anarchist Communist Group

From the No Safety, No Work website “How many deaths does it take till we know that too many people have died?” The rapid rise in both new cases and deaths is not a surprise to most. Yet it seems that the government didn’t think it would happen, or preferred not to accept it because it...

www.anarchistcommunism.org

 

[brogdale]

He was in press conferences on the 21st and 30th December too.

Yep, I was thinking of the last 'major' statement to the public type of event thing.

 

[redsquirrel]

Labour in Wales still defending keeping schools open (from Guardian feed)

Schools in Wales will begin to reopen this month unless the evidence about the new strain of coronavirus changes, the country’s health minister, Vaughan Gething, has said.

Some schools in Wales are preparing to resume face-to-face learning as early as Wednesday, in line with the government’s current plan to allow them to choose when to reopen ahead of an expected full return by 18 January.

Gething said the government is still planning for schools “to open in a flexible way”, and that control measures to prevent the spread of the virus have been “largely effective”.

Unions have called for a rethink of the plan due to safety concerns. The Welsh TUC called for “a far more cautious approach” from the Welsh government, including moving all schools to home learning for most, so that only pupils who are vulnerable or the children of key workers return to school while the role of young people in transmitting the new coronavirus variant continues to be investigated.

 

[cupid_stunt]

One week on....



... and the rest of Surrey, Brighton & Hove City, plus all of West Sussex except the rural Chichester district, which is not far behind, have all gone purple - that's 8 different borough/district/city council areas!

ETA - Plus Crawley turns dark purple.

Cases per 100k in Worthing has gone from under 25 to over 633 in less than 5 weeks.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yep, I was thinking of the last 'major' statement to the public type of event thing.

one of the areas where this country could learn from some of our european friends is in the field of public speaking.

if johnson was forced to declaim his speeches from a balcony like auld ceaucescu he'd perhaps be better able to gauge the reaction to his pisspoor oratory.

 

[Steel Icarus]

It's absolutely fucking criminal how slow of thought and deed these ghouls in charge are. They've caused huge amounts of stress to pupils, parents and educators alike for fuck-all when a drunk tapeworm living in the arse of an abyssal viperfish could see weeks ago what should and shouldn't be done. I genuinely despise them for doing this to us.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Why 8pm for a tv message ? Why not now, so people can digest whatever shite about face instructions you will be issuing. Give people enough time to arrange childcare and cover - you pumpkins heeded imbecile

 

[Pickman's model]

Why 8pm for a tv message ? Why not now, so people can digest whatever shite about face instructions you will be issuing. Give people enough time to arrange childcare and cover - you pumpkins heeded imbecile

and you know it will be delivered late

 

[zora]

It's absolutely fucking criminal how slow of thought and deed these ghouls in charge are. They've caused huge amounts of stress to pupils, parents and educators alike for fuck-all when a drunk tapeworm living in the arse of an abyssal viperfish could see weeks ago what should and shouldn't be done. I genuinely despise them for doing this to us.

Well said!

 

[MrSki]

what normal people think

That is because Starmer has been so shite. Not really being opposing much recently & not standing up for the teaching unions is one way to alienate labour voters.

 

[magneze]

It's weird. In a way it's worse than Trump. He's just doing nothing. Whereas we have a government who appear to be able to cock everything up, every single time, without fail.

 

[killer b]

Why 8pm for a tv message ? Why not now, so people can digest whatever shite about face instructions you will be issuing. Give people enough time to arrange childcare and cover - you pumpkins heeded imbecile

they need to decide what to say first I suppose. this morning they were pushing on.

 

[existentialist]

That's interesting.

I'ld add a bit of a caveat.
Waste water testing is fine as a source for warnings about changes in the prevalaence of the virus ...
But, in the largely rural area I live in, a good proportion of the housing is not connected to mains drainage.
The septic tanks (etc) are the responsibility of the households connected to them (why we pay the waste water precept I have no idea, we get nothing for it !)

Given the broad brush nature of sewage analysis, it probably lends itself better to larger, more built-up areas where sewage is collected and treated centrally in any case. Rural/less densely populated areas would, I imagine, have less of a need of such an indicator anyway.

 

[prunus]

...a drunk tapeworm living in the arse of an abyssal viperfish could see weeks ago what should and shouldn't be done.

From what I could see on the Andrew Marr show the other day he couldn’t see in fact.

 

[lazythursday]

It's just unbearable. Locally we have been under restrictions since June, I think, it's so fucking hard to remember now - and in mid December we actually got well below 200 per 100,000, consistently. Light blue on the map! A sense of things actually not being shit scarey. And here we are, dark blue again, cases rapidly increasing, all just so predictable and infuriating. And under no illusions it is going to get so much worse.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I'm going to stick my neck out and go

1x with a heavy heart
3x alas
47x ehm
1x obscure mythological reference or Latin phrase
1x schools are safe
2x insinuation it's everyone else's fault
1x it's vital we act NOW so from midnight Saturday...

 

[Lord Camomile]

I'm going to stick my neck out and go

1x with a heavy heart
3x alas
47x ehm
1x obscure mythological reference or Latin phrase
1x schools are safe
2x insinuation it's everyone else's fault
1x it's vital we act NOW so from midnight Saturday...

"great British public"
"we'll beat this by [ludicrous over-promising date]"

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm going to stick my neck out and go

1x with a heavy heart
3x alas
47x ehm
1x obscure mythological reference or Latin phrase
1x schools are safe
2x insinuation it's everyone else's fault
1x it's vital we act NOW so from midnight Saturday...

he'd cheer the nation if he used the opportunity to commit seppuku

 

[brogdale]

one of the areas where this country could learn from some of our european friends is in the field of public speaking.

if johnson was forced to declaim his speeches from a balcony like auld ceaucescu he'd perhaps be better able to gauge the reaction to his pisspoor oratory.

Be more than content with the eventual ceaucescu outcome for johnson

 

[mauvais]

Why 8pm for a tv message ? Why not now, so people can digest whatever shite about face instructions you will be issuing. Give people enough time to arrange childcare and cover - you pumpkins heeded imbecile

It'll be about 21.30 by the time he turns up anyway.

 

[magneze]

It'll probably be him getting vaccinated on telly.

"Thanks for your time. Remember schools are safe. Bonus fortuna!"

shambles off

 

[cupid_stunt]

Why 8pm for a tv message ? Why not now, so people can digest whatever shite about face instructions you will be issuing. Give people enough time to arrange childcare and cover - you pumpkins heeded imbecile

It's the PM addressing the nation, rather than a normal Downing Street press conference, so going for prime time, instead of early evening.

 

[brogdale]

they need to decide what to say first I suppose. this morning they were pushing on.

Suspect as much effort goes into smoozing the swivel-eyed death cultist backbenchers and corporate interests as actually devising public-health related solutions.