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There's a reason I post like that. I have short-term memory problems that are bad enough that unless I reply to posts as I read them, I forget them.
That doesn't explain the reason you think people are interested in your crass opinion on every post made though.
 
That doesn't explain the reason you think people are interested in your crass opinion on every post made though.

It's only your own ignorance and antipathy that makes you believe that I think people are interested in my opinions, crass or not.
It's sad that you have to drag this ignorance and antipathy into every thread, shitting things up for everyone else.
 
I hadn't realised the amount of posts a person responds to required an explaination.

Not that any of this has anything at all to do with the subject of the thread.

The problem being that what does have something to do with the subject of the thread, is something that some posters don't like to be reminded of - the effect of landlordism and gentrification on the existing community. That effect is writ large on areas like Coldharbour - areas that'll apparently give thanks for regeneration at some unspecified time in the future (that claim having been made by Lambeth council's "cabinet member for housing").
 
I hadn't realised the amount of posts a person responds to required an explaination.

Not that any of this has anything at all to do with the subject of the thread.
It's the same people doing the same shit every time in the Brixton forums. Always going for the personal digs rather than arguing the actual topic. :rolleyes:
 
It's the same people doing the same shit every time in the Brixton forums. Always going for the personal digs rather than arguing the actual topic. :rolleyes:

I wonder what they benefit from the distraction.

I suspect they are just cowardly bullies and trolls.
 
Yep. But which people? My list might be different to yours.
Just look to the ones who are actually discussing topics related to Brixton and the ones talking about whether I have a job or not, or attacking the fact that a disabled poster chooses to post multiple times in a row etc etc.
 
Absolutely. History, be it local, regional, national or supra-national, is and always will be a history of class friction as well as a history of "great events and great men".
I got sneered at yesterday by a senior council officer and a council "cabinet member" (the member bit being apt) because I was a local council estate pov daring to voice my opinion on what they plan to do to my home. Both got flustered and found something else to be doing when I distilled matters down to social/demographic engineering and the desire of officers and councillors to "raise the calibre" of Lambeth residents. I didn't even use the emotive term "social cleansing".

I was at a meeting about LJ on Thursday.

Said I was concerned the way "consultation" was used.

Specifically the consultation on the Brixton Central Masterplan. Where we are not told about NRs plans. That one officer had told me that we had signed up to this as people agreed that arches be improved.

My point I said was the danger of attending Council consultation events is the way that the Council could interpret results. I wanted clarity about wording of docs. Also the Council to be clear about its preferred options at the outset. Rather than trying to persuade people at consultation events that a certain option would be best whilst appearing to be just trying to get our views.

In LJ case I was concerned about the Adventure playground in LJ and the way that people were "consulted" about this.

My what I thought reasonably put comments did not go down at all well with officers or Cllr present.

The Cllr present actually said the arches in Atlantic road need doing up.

Like you I did not use emotive language. But the airing of concerns like this does not go down well.
 
I personally don't want to live in a sea of cocktail bars and boutique salons but if that's what's happening then it's not anybody in particular's fault it's just economics.

In particular Capitalism as the form of economics we live under.

One of the wonders of Capitalism is that its difficult to find out whose fault it is. Its not like the old one party communist states in Eastern Europe where one could put all blame on the State. Capitalism is normalised as the natural way of things. In this case the way that affordable small business gets pushed out of an area is unfortunate. But its not something one can do much about. Its just the ways things are.

What capitalism does do is , left to its own devices, create disparities on wealth. These disparities are seen both in income and spatially ( that is in areas becoming polarised) Its also unstable system prone to crises.

That is the bigger picture. Ur right behind the arguments about cocktail bars there is the serious reasons why this is happening.
 
I was at a meeting about LJ on Thursday.
Said I was concerned the way "consultation" was used.
Specifically the consultation on the Brixton Central Masterplan. Where we are not told about NRs plans. That one officer had told me that we had signed up to this as people agreed that arches be improved.
My point I said was the danger of attending Council consultation events is the way that the Council could interpret results. I wanted clarity about wording of docs. Also the Council to be clear about its preferred options at the outset. Rather than trying to persuade people at consultation events that a certain option would be best whilst appearing to be just trying to get our views.
In LJ case I was concerned about the Adventure playground in LJ and the way that people were "consulted" about this.
My what I thought reasonably put comments did not go down at all well with officers or Cllr present.
The Cllr present actually said the arches in Atlantic road need doing up.
Like you I did not use emotive language. But the airing of concerns like this does not go down well.
I think attending consultations is a bit of a Catch 22 situation.

The way consultations are done at the moment, the risk is that you will turn up, voice your opinion, and then in the consultant's write up (and they do normally seem to be conducted by consultancy firms acting on behalf of the council) your contribution is ignored or voided by a gloss in favour of what the council wanted in the first place (usually for financial reasons).

On the other had if you don't attend, there is no way your voice will be heard.
 
woke up this morning at 0400 and smelt very strong plastic burning smell - looked outside and couldn't see for smoke. heard sirens in distance as well as helicopter for ages. sounded like a major incident. i'm halfway along CHL. does anyone know what it was?
 
Y'know, we have plenty of posters across urban who have different perspectives and politics than the predominant outlook, yet they're part of the community here and are able to have a proper discussion and respect for others even when disagreement can at times get quite heated.

The Brixton forum in the last couple of years though has really become victim to a handful of posters that aren't even this, but just cheap point score, attack long-time posters, wear down Ed with nasty bile, and derail threads which document a time of massive social and economic change for this part of London. Have some fucking respect for the place some of you.
 
I was at a meeting about LJ on Thursday.

Said I was concerned the way "consultation" was used.

Specifically the consultation on the Brixton Central Masterplan. Where we are not told about NRs plans. That one officer had told me that we had signed up to this as people agreed that arches be improved.

My point I said was the danger of attending Council consultation events is the way that the Council could interpret results. I wanted clarity about wording of docs. Also the Council to be clear about its preferred options at the outset. Rather than trying to persuade people at consultation events that a certain option would be best whilst appearing to be just trying to get our views.

In LJ case I was concerned about the Adventure playground in LJ and the way that people were "consulted" about this.

My what I thought reasonably put comments did not go down at all well with officers or Cllr present.

The Cllr present actually said the arches in Atlantic road need doing up.

Like you I did not use emotive language. But the airing of concerns like this does not go down well.

So glad you at least tried to bring up the issue of the 'distortion' of consultation data. I'm looking forward to reading the minutes of the meeting even though of course, those will be written by someone who may omit bits by mistake..

The Grove Adventure Playground is so stark an example of this that to be honest I've been scared to fully engage with it because I think I'll just get so angry that all I end up achieving is messing up my own little life for a few months whilst changing nothing at all.
But really glad you at least raised the question of that claim they made that "many people" said they were in favour of bulldozing the playground and replacing it with a block of flats.
Transparency / honesty in how consultation is carried out and then how the results are presented would be a huge help but I suspect the culture of twisting the facts to fit the desired outcome is so deeply engrained that changing it would require some sort of massive overhaul of how things work.
 
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woke up this morning at 0400 and smelt very strong plastic burning smell - looked outside and couldn't see for smoke. heard sirens in distance as well as helicopter for ages. sounded like a major incident. i'm halfway along CHL. does anyone know what it was?

Not the first post I was expecting to do but....yes- huge house fire on E side of Northlands Street. Many fire engines etc. People walked to ambulances so hopefully nobody hurt. One poor guy in bare feet and wrapped in a sheet. Helicopter was there to light the back gardens I think.
 
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