Cold War Aviation Porn
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pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Were there not a number of similar engine configuration aircraft under development at the same time? The various Saunders Roe Interceptors and I think at least one of the Blackburn designs? The main difference was that these were all combined rocket/jet aircraft but being the first of this generation, the Lightning was to be all-jet. Although after the mass cancellations of projects in the wake of the 1957 White Paper, there was a proposal to stick a rocket in the Lightning as a stop-gap measure until Bloodhound Missiles came into service..! However the arrival of its much delayed Avon engines meant that its performance was declared ample and that too was dropped.
IIRC the only reason the Lightning survived 1957 was because the ink was dry on all the main contracts, so the cost of cancelling it was deemed about as much as letting it go into service.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
quite a lot more power on the throttle, and pull up a little on the nose also required.
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
I’m assuming he was already flat out, would be silly not to be with such a short field. Pulling the stick harder back would probably have resulted in a sudden descent with such low airspeed. I reckon he was pulling back as far as he dared and had lost sight of the fact the treeline was much lower towards the right hand side.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Maybe the engines were not performing as expected ?
Pilot should have done a "full revs" test before starting the take off.
Chap I know almost put a glider tug on it's nose when the motor hiccoughed, at least he was still on the ground !
T & P
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Looks like the chasing plane (is that an F-15, or a Mig?) won't be able to fly over Greater London from 29 August...
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Thumrait, Oman. Well known as a dumping ground for Jag mates and completely unsupervised flying.
It's obviously as dangerous as fuck but the Shaguar was very stable in that flight regime due to very high wing loading.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Would be scary flying over water without the ferry tanks!
T & P
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I suspect the rest of the aircraft isn't stealthy (or was trying to be), but those sharp angles on the wings remind me a lot of modern stealth plane design.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
They started off copying the wing of the F-86 (the performance of which somewhat shook the enormous self-regard of the post-WW2 British aviation industry) and then adding more and more sweep. The 60 deg sweep of the P1 prototype was just where they happened to be when the whole thing had to be rushed into production as an operational aircraft.
gosub
~#
Hmm where to begin .. Sabre tail was very sharp practice from a British point of view and the sweep angle history owes as much to deltas like the Avro Arrow and the COC CA23
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Absolute wonder of technology for the early 70s.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Hmmm - Remember that the B36 was late, partly due to its huge complexity, use of new materials and drawn-out design programme. If things had gone to plan it, not the B29 would have been the "big" bomber of WW2.
Despite it being all-jet, the B47 was a more simplified aircraft that drew heavily on the work already put into B29 (first flown 1942?) - to the point where it could be seen as more the development of an existing aircraft, rather than a whole new type.
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Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I'm amazed it ever got to a flyable state. That's one project where the writing was on the wall from the very start.
PTK
Paul Kegan
In the event of an actual hot war, the Vulcans would not have had enough fuel to return. They were suicide bombers.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I think the problem was that when they were designed the way to get to the target was to fly at 50,000ft, which is very fuel efficient and would allow strikes into the Soviet Union - aided by delivering the nukes via stand-off missiles - unfortunately air defence capability then changed, and you had to fly at low level, which burns fuel like it's going out of fashion, and makes using stand off missiles more problematic.
There was then, as existentialist says, the problem of when Lincolnshire would still exist....
