MiG-21 "Fishbed"
Cold War Aviation Porn
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iamwithnail
Well-Known Member
What's that badboy? The Boeing SST?
looks like it to me
jesus, does that thing even fly?
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
jesus, does that thing even fly?
My memory is that it was considered one of the best planes of its era (1st generation jets) and remained effective for a considerable period - not withdrawn till the late 1960s, with a few soldiering-on till the 1970s IIRC?
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Yep.
Unsurprisingly 'tunnan' means barrel:
"From Middle English tunne, tonne (“cask, barrel”), from Old English tunne (“tun, cask, barrel”), from Proto-Germanic *tunnǭ, *tunnō (“tun, barrel, cask”), of unknown origin. Cognate with North Frisian tenn (“tun, barrel, cask”), Dutch ton (“tun, barrel, cask”), German Tonne (“tun, barrel, drum”), Danish tønde (“barrel”), Swedish tunna (“barrel, cask, tun”), Icelandic tunna (“barrel”). Compare also Old French tonne, French tonneau (“ton, barrel”), Medieval Latin tunna (“cask”), Middle Irish tunna (“cask”), Welsh tynell (“tun, barrel”). It is uncertain whether the Germanic or the Celtic forms are the original"
"From Middle English tunne, tonne (“cask, barrel”), from Old English tunne (“tun, cask, barrel”), from Proto-Germanic *tunnǭ, *tunnō (“tun, barrel, cask”), of unknown origin. Cognate with North Frisian tenn (“tun, barrel, cask”), Dutch ton (“tun, barrel, cask”), German Tonne (“tun, barrel, drum”), Danish tønde (“barrel”), Swedish tunna (“barrel, cask, tun”), Icelandic tunna (“barrel”). Compare also Old French tonne, French tonneau (“ton, barrel”), Medieval Latin tunna (“cask”), Middle Irish tunna (“cask”), Welsh tynell (“tun, barrel”). It is uncertain whether the Germanic or the Celtic forms are the original"
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
As a neutral nation, the Swedes gave a new home to a lot of the ex-Nazi aviation and rocket engineers fleeing the allies at the end of WWII. Gave them quite a head start in the post WWII aeronautical development race, so I can believe that the Tunnan might have been among the best of those designed during that era.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
It was decent enough for its time but no match for an F-86. The frenetic pace of post-war jet development meant it was pretty much obsolete as soon as production finished in the mid 50s as the F-100/102 and Farmer/Fishbed were on the scene by then.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
B-1B. Another aircraft the MoD passed on.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
The B-1B is a fantastic aircraft - and I've been a very grateful customer of it for CAS, ISTAR and Deliberate Attack - but like the F-117 that was also offered to the UK, it would have hoovered up a huge proportion of the RAF's resources and all the other tasks/requirements would have suffered significantly or been chopped altogether.
If the RAAF's current budget increase had happened 20 years ago it would have been a very good fit for them...
If the RAAF's current budget increase had happened 20 years ago it would have been a very good fit for them...
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
B-1B. Another aircraft the MoD passed on.
Really intimidating profile/outline imo.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Rockwell lobbied very hard for the chance to sell the Bone to the UK against bitter opposition from the DoD and were amazed when the UK wasn't interested. Why would we want something that has 8 x the payload and 3 x the range of a Tornado?
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Maybe we're just nice people who don't want to drop too many bombs on people who are far away
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Coz operating two dozen of them would have cost the same as the in service cost of all the Tornados, all the Harriers, all the Jags and all the Nimrod's?
There an interesting exercise to be done regarding designing a force structure from scratch around B-1B as the offensive arm, perhaps in place of all the ground attack/strike aircraft, possibly even instead of the CVS and Harrier as well - but it simply couldn't fit within the existing force structure with a huge increase in annual funding.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Nah. The evidence suggests we’e not.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Depends what the conditions are - not keen on it, they provide sovereign capability in a number of fields.
I would have preferred a QinetiQ buy out...
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I am uneasy. And what a time to announce it, when it may get the least scrutiny.
Aha.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
To be fair, it's been in the process and public knowledge for the last year or so - there have been a couple of articles and speeches made asking about the wisdom of losing sovereign capability, but they've fallen on deaf ears.
There's been no shroud of secrecy over this, only a mist of indifference.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Quite a few years back did quite a lot of work with Chelton - (one of?) the avionics parts of Cobham. Good bespoke engineers and, more to the point, very good lunches...
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
