Change UK: Chuka Umunna resigns from Labour party and launches Independent Group

[Wilf]

Another way of thinking about the chuks is when that twat in a white suit, Martin Bell, stood against Neil Hamilton (and Christine Hamilton really). They are like a Frankenstein mixture of all 3 of them - timid, self righteous and fucking annoying, all at the same time.

And they've still got dire straits blaring out.

 

[Mr Moose]

TBF this stuff is difficult - 'pederastic' and 'gary glitter' probably aren't on the list of red flag terms they were asked to consider - I assume a lot of the stuff coming out is from files people have been keeping on the weirdos for years, rather than someone getting lucky on searching their social media.

It's a bit worrying tbh - who needs the stasi when we can all keep tabs on each other?

There are a lot of people to remember stuff, esp journos or those who knew you when you claimed to be right on. Like Claire Fox having to answer plenty of questions now she has hitched herself to Farage’s wagon.

And good, let her ridiculous libertarianism get the once over. She’s been given the chance to hold forth unopposed long enough.

 

[killer b]

Claire Fox having to answer plenty of questions now she has hitched herself to Farage’s wagon.

Is she having to? Where?

 

[kabbes]

They’re so near the truth with that memo but they’ve just missed it. The truth, that is, that they are the Lib Dems with less money, less support, no boots on the ground and no clear way of getting any of this. With the consequence that they aren’t going to swallow the Lib Dems, it’s going to be the other way round.

 

[MickiQ]

Another way of thinking about the chuks is when that twat in a white suit, Martin Bell, stood against Neil Hamilton (and Christine Hamilton really). They are like a Frankenstein mixture of all 3 of them - timid, self righteous and fucking annoying, all at the same time.

And they've still got dire straits blaring out.

Burn it to the ground

 

[brogdale]

They’re so near the truth with that memo but they’ve just missed it. The truth, that is, that they are the Lib Dems with less money, less support, no boots on the ground and no clear way of getting any of this. With the consequence that they aren’t going to swallow the Lib Dems, it’s going to be the other way round.

 

[Teaboy]

The People's Vote campaign lot must be holding their heads in their hands. This lot are basically sinking the idea below the waterline by barging themselves to front and centre of it and then becoming such an obvious focus of ridicule.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

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They look uncannily like Cable and Chuckie.

 

[Balbi]

I have very mixed feelings about all this, but it's pretty funny.

Aye, I think the combo of them expensively outsourcing their getting combined with left twitter quite swiftly doing the job for free and the ongoing fuckery of their entire Comms strategy is too good not to have a laugh at.

 

[DotCommunist]

I had thought to myself that these lot wouldn't survive an election but I expected them to crumble in a domestic election rather than the euros lol.

 

[Mr Moose]

Is she having to? Where?

Well ok, I overstate, but on Politics Live she was grilled over her scepticism about Serbian war crimes, her ‘contrarian’ views, which really pissed her off, because she considers that hanging out with Farage doesn’t revoke her ‘leftism’ (the left moved, she explained) and on Twitter plenty of folk laying into her about her support for wrongness as diverse as Gary Glitter’s ‘right’ to download child porn and GM foods.

Worst of all Tim Montgomerie described her as a ‘National Treasure’.

 

[killer b]

Well ok, I overstate, but on Politics Live she was grilled over her scepticism about Serbian war crimes, her ‘contrarian’ views, which really pissed her off, because she considers that hanging out with Farage doesn’t revoke her ‘leftism’ (the left moved, she explained) and on Twitter plenty of folk laying into her about her support for wrongness as diverse as Gary Glitter’s ‘right’ to download child porn and GM foods.

Worst of all Tim Montgomerie described her as a ‘National Treasure’.

I just watched her slot on politics live, she walked it. Loads of people would nod along with that.

 

[likesfish]

tbf martin bell won which the cuks have no chance.

 

[Balbi]

Speaking of the Lib Dems, this strategy document detailing how TIG plan to overtake them has been leaked today...

Given Chuka and Allan, I think, actually wrote articles on Lib Dem sites explaining how CUK weren't trying to occupy Lib Dem territory - this is a fantastic way to further bankrupt your claims of 'new politics'

 

[Mr Moose]

I just watched her slot on politics live, she walked it. Loads of people would nod along with that.

She got an easy ride, was allowed not to have her claims to be of the left or a feminist met with the contradictions of her position. She's one and the same with Mad Mel and Burchill who can all speak well for five minutes and have you nodding along until you try to unpick the hostility.

So on multiculturalism, ok fine, identity politics is a curse, but don't go on about it at every opportunity until you share a stage with Farage. You are then talking to an audience that only has one nuance in mind.

 

[killer b]

She got an easy ride, was allowed not to have her claims to be of the left or a feminist met with the contradictions of her position. She's one and the same with Mad Mel and Burchill who can all speak well for five minutes and have you nodding along until you try to unpick the hostility.

So on multiculturalism, ok fine, identity politics is a curse, but don't go on about it at every opportunity until you share a stage with Farage. You are then talking to an audience that only has one nuance in mind.

I think Fox's role is to let people who consider themselves broadly 'left' give themselves permission to vote Farage, and if that performance is anything to go by she's a decent investment.

 

[treelover]

Is she having to? Where?

JO on Politics Live robustly pushed her, on the Camp issue, but also defending GM Crops, basically being a corporate stooge

ah, already answered.

 

[killer b]

mate I just watched it, she had no problems there at all.

 

[killer b]

robust my arse. no sustained questioning, just each point put to her to be batted away, which she did with ease. Coburn's pursed lips =/= 'robust'

 

[Mr Moose]

I think Fox's role is to let people who consider themselves broadly 'left' give themselves permission to vote Farage, and if that performance is anything to go by she's a decent investment.

Yes that’s her role for Farage. She’s got no value for the rest of us.

 

[killer b]

Well, no. But nor is she having to account for herself in any meaningful way, which is where we came in.

 

[Augie March]

I've just realised that Crispin Mills, lead singer of crap britpop band Longpigs, is a CUK candidate and now I can't stop laughing

 

[Ted Striker]

That's basically a football club whose 5 year plan is "get more fans than Man Utd, announce on Twitter that we have more fans than Man Utd, win the premier league".

Tbf, for 20 years, every manager hired was done so under "find and hire the next Wenger" page of the 'be like Arsenal' strategy of spend sod all and win everything .

Only Christian Gross turned out to be not quite the saviour we all hoped for.

But I digress...

 

[Ted Striker]

I've just realised that Crispin Mills, lead singer of crap britpop band Longpigs, is a CUK candidate and now I can't stop laughing

(((((Kula Shakers reputation))))

 

[Augie March]

(((((Kula Shakers reputation))))

Wrong Crispin. Millsy is standing for the BNP I think...

 

[Augie March]

God I hope whoever announces that council's results makes the same Crispin mixup I did and calls him Mills instead and plays Hush after they announce he's lost his deposit

 

[Dogsauce]

As someone I know on Facebab observed, ‘Change UK’ sounds like a shit national charity shop chain.

 

[Balbi]

After losing the London bloke to the Romanian stuff and the Scottish bloke to the sex worker stuff, TIG are circling the wagons around Nora Mulready.

 

[Santino]

I saw Longpigs support Space, and Jarvis Cocker was in the audience until he got fed up of people like me staring at him and he stormed off in a huff.

 

[butchersapron]

belboid