Change UK: Chuka Umunna resigns from Labour party and launches Independent Group

[danny la rouge]

Ironic that a party calling itself Change, literally doesn't want to change anything at all

They’re doing the job that they’re supposed to do. Say they’re offering a choice to the electorate, while making sure there’s no choice for the electorate.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

They've got Boris Johnson's sister as a candidate.

 

[andysays]

And former BBC journo Gavin Esler, apparently.

Seems they're standing 70 candidates. Doesn't the MEP voting system involve some form of PR or STV or something? And if so could they sneak in an MEP where they'd struggle to get an MP under FPTP?

 

[killer b]

And former BBC journo Gavin Esler, apparently.

Seems they're standing 70 candidates. Doesn't the MEP voting system involve some form of PR or STV or something? And if so could they sneak in an MEP where they'd struggle to get an MP under FPTP?

they need to get over a certain percentage (varies depending on region as there's different numbers of MPs per region) to be in contention. Current polling = 0 MEPs.

 

[andysays]

they need to get over a certain percentage (varies depending on region as there's different numbers of MPs per region) to be in contention. Current polling = 0 MEPs.

Thanks

 

[cupid_stunt]

They've got Boris Johnson's sister as a candidate.

At least that will piss off Boris, which has got to be a good thing.

 

[TopCat]

They've got Boris Johnson's sister as a candidate.

Amazing.

 

[Wilf]

South East has 10 seats, the biggest region. If they managed to get voters to see them as the place to do Remain protests they might squeak a seat. Otherwise, can't see it, particularly as the lib dems and greens are standing candidates.

Edit: London also (8 seats). But still unlikely.

 

[andysays]

South East has 10 seats, the biggest region. If they managed to get voters to see them as the place to do Remain protests they might squeak a seat. Otherwise, can't see it, particularly as the lib dems and greens are standing candidates.

Edit: London also (8 seats). But still unlikely.

South East has 10 seats, the biggest region. If they managed to get voters to see them as the place to do Remain protests they might squeak a seat. Otherwise, can't see it, particularly as the lib dems and greens are standing candidates.

Edit: London also (8 seats). But still unlikely.

Those two regions seem the most likely for pro-Remain parties, though not necessarily Chuka's mob.

 

[Wilf]

Those two regions seem the most likely for pro-Remain parties, though not necessarily Chuka's mob.

Yes. More generally, turnout could work in odd ways in this election. Might well be that the committed on both sides turn out more than the rest. Alongside Tory voters shifting to the swivel eyed parties, there might also be the phenomena of Labour voters and even Libdems staying at home.

 

[killer b]

Outside of the established politicians, a lot of the Change / TIG list have what political profile they have from gobbing off about it on twitter - Esler, Weetman & the lawyer they've announced (I forget her name and their website - which doesn't show up when you google 'change UK' - doesn't have a list yet) are all mad FBPE types.

 

[TopCat]

Interim leader Heidi Allen told the event in Bristol: "These elections are a chance to send the clearest possible message - we demand a People's Vote and the right to campaign to remain in the European Union. We are not afraid to say it as clearly as that."

 

[PR1Berske]

And former BBC journo Gavin Esler, apparently.

Seems they're standing 70 candidates. Doesn't the MEP voting system involve some form of PR or STV or something? And if so could they sneak in an MEP where they'd struggle to get an MP under FPTP?

It's the d'Hondt Method of voting if you fancy some bed tine reading.

 

[andysays]

It's the d'Hondt Method of voting if you fancy some bed tine reading.

Of course, the system devised by Victor D'Hondt, a Belgian lawyer and mathematician active in the 19th Century, how could I forget...

The D'Hondt system: How MEPs get elected in Britain

 

[Wilf]

a Belgian lawyer and mathematician active in the 19th Century

... less so since then.

 

[butchersapron]

Who got a vote on that?

 

[PR1Berske]

Who got a vote on that?

The EU itself legislated that all members had to use a form of PR for electing MEPs. Prior to that, the UK had a series of mahoosive FPtP mega-constituencies.

 

[butchersapron]

The EU itself legislated that all members had to use a form of PR for electing MEPs. Prior to that, the UK had a series of mahoosive FPtP mega-constituencies.

Not me then. Ta.

 

[Wilf]

The EU itself legislated that all members had to use a form of PR for electing MEPs. Prior to that, the UK had a series of mahoosive FPtP mega-constituencies.

I vaguely remember that the UK government just nominated Euro MEPs in proportion to the number of Westminster seats, the first time round (early 70s, from memory).

 

[killer b]

I'm not much of a fan of trial by Twitter callout, but I guess if you live by the sword, die by the sword...

Change UK candidate said he wants Brexit if it stops Romanian pickpockets

 

[cupid_stunt]

I'm not much of a fan of trial by Twitter callout, but I guess if you live by the sword, die by the sword...

Change UK candidate said he wants Brexit if it stops Romanian pickpockets

Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.

 

[binka]

So they've chosen a former finance minister of Poland to be on the London list. Does anyone know anything about him? Who will be surprised when it turns out he's a massive cunt too?

 

[imposs1904]

I'm not much of a fan of trial by Twitter callout, but I guess if you live by the sword, die by the sword...

Change UK candidate said he wants Brexit if it stops Romanian pickpockets

3000 people applied to be candidates for CH:UK, and they pick this prick. That's funny.

 

[killer b]

They turned down Richard Dawkins for this?

 

[Sprocket.]

Interim leader Heidi Allen told the event in Bristol: "These elections are a chance to send the clearest possible message - we will all be unemployed at the next general election, "

 

[butchersapron]

They turned down Richard Dawkins for this?

Denied him thrice.

 

[SpookyFrank]

3000 people applied to be candidates for CH:UK, and they pick this prick. That's funny.

You're assuming any of those 3000 were less awful.

 

[kebabking]

I didn't know there were 3000 Guardian columnists...

 

[SpackleFrog]

I didn't know there were 3000 Guardian columnists...

Comment Is Free innit.

 

[Balbi]

So the selection process was, likely, the CUK MPs and their employed family scrolling through CVs and looking for famous names - because they've got no membership or party structure