Change UK: Chuka Umunna resigns from Labour party and launches Independent Group
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andysays
Love and solidarity
Hang on, I thought they'd had 'thousands of expressions of interest', surely some of those people must be capable, or at least as capable as the 'partners' they've appointed, which may not be saying much...
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I mean, say what you want about the tenets of salafist jihadism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
Plus, if you use your car and ferries/euro tunnel you can fill up with cigs and booze every trip and have a nice little sideline.
gosub
~#
Somebody"s brother (or sista) always gets the job
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
ChUK just need some cannon fodder for the elections, plus £100 will do nicely for the "vetting". The vetting consists of a box on the application form asking you to list all your previous Twitter handles, Facebook names and other social media accounts. Get a couple of interns on it...
mauvais
on reddit or something
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
after the next election they will be the spare change party, elbowing their way past the homeless and indigent to demand money from passers-by on the basis of their former glory
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
One of those orwellian faces
SpineyNorman
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Clearly savouring the bouquet of one of his own farts in that one.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Good to see their spiritual king really emphasising how Labour wasn't racist before Corbyn took over by rehashing classic New Labour racism....
Tony Blair: migrants should be forced to integrate more to combat far right
Tony Blair: migrants should be forced to integrate more to combat far right
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
He manages even now to descend to new depths
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
Also, did none of the MPs who resigned from their previous parties, or their advisers, query the wisdom of calling their new party Change UK, which will get abbreviated to CUK, which sounds like cuck, the alt-right's favourite insult?
I mean UKIP MPs, members and supporters get called Ukippers or 'Kippers, so why no one thought that those associated with CUK might become known, pejoratively or otherwise, as Cuks, is baffling.
I mean UKIP MPs, members and supporters get called Ukippers or 'Kippers, so why no one thought that those associated with CUK might become known, pejoratively or otherwise, as Cuks, is baffling.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It’s not really baffling, they are all just thick as pig shit.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Albeit from an obviously sympathetic (probably LibDemish) poster, this comment on Smithson's Political Betting site makes a few interesting points about the political premature ejaculation that is/was ChUKa...
“..Sad to say, I am beginning to think that TIG has blown its chance. They ducked the opportunity to do a policy declaration a la Limehouse, because both Tory and Labour defectors wanted to cling to the belief that “they didn’t leave their party, it left them”, which obviously doesn’t compute. So there was no call to arms for people looking for a new approach to politics.
They oversold the prospect of getting a steady flow of recruits. Even on political reform only Chuka has tried to set out a comprehensive agenda, leaving doubts as to what their MPs really think about PR or Lords reform. Their social media performance has been somewhat lame. Their choice of namedoesn’t really work and their very poor logo wasn’t accepted by the EC. They gave a cold shoulder to the LibDems and don’t really seem to understand what it means to be a third party in our political system.
Now it looks like they could become merely a vehicle for former MPs who lost their seats and former MEPs rejected by the main parties to try and resurrect their careers. Candidates chosen and ordered into a list by an opaque interview process, because they don’t yet have any formal membership structure. An end point a very long way from the change they initially promised. Indeed aside from Chuka’s political reform speech and some stirring opposition to Brexit from Soubry and Leslie, it isn’t clear what they actually offer, and it certainly doesn’t appear to include very much ‘change’.
The sadness is that if they fail, it will close off the chance for others to do a better job. Leaving Farage as the only chance of ‘breaking the mould’ – and he is surely likely to lose interest once Brexit is out the way, whatever he says now about his longer term objective.”
That first bolded point seem an important one and along with the death of RW media interest as soon as they absorbed Tory MPs, seems set to limit their impact.They oversold the prospect of getting a steady flow of recruits. Even on political reform only Chuka has tried to set out a comprehensive agenda, leaving doubts as to what their MPs really think about PR or Lords reform. Their social media performance has been somewhat lame. Their choice of namedoesn’t really work and their very poor logo wasn’t accepted by the EC. They gave a cold shoulder to the LibDems and don’t really seem to understand what it means to be a third party in our political system.
Now it looks like they could become merely a vehicle for former MPs who lost their seats and former MEPs rejected by the main parties to try and resurrect their careers. Candidates chosen and ordered into a list by an opaque interview process, because they don’t yet have any formal membership structure. An end point a very long way from the change they initially promised. Indeed aside from Chuka’s political reform speech and some stirring opposition to Brexit from Soubry and Leslie, it isn’t clear what they actually offer, and it certainly doesn’t appear to include very much ‘change’.
The sadness is that if they fail, it will close off the chance for others to do a better job. Leaving Farage as the only chance of ‘breaking the mould’ – and he is surely likely to lose interest once Brexit is out the way, whatever he says now about his longer term objective.”
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I don't think they are standing in the Council elections which would give a more accurate picture of their base but they are in the Euros .
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
They've massively underestimated party loyalty and enmity between the two big parties, and ridiculously overinflated their own sense of authentocratic reputation with 'the voters', the quasi-mythical group they believed supported them when it became clear their own party's membership thought they were duplicitous careerist hacks.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
They've come out in support of TM (in the face of a vonc) 
Seemingly because it increases the risk of a GE (and de-selection).
Essentially they've backed themselves into that corner and it pretty much details their main manifesto issue: avoid a GE at all costs.
Seemingly because it increases the risk of a GE (and de-selection).Essentially they've backed themselves into that corner and it pretty much details their main manifesto issue: avoid a GE at all costs.
Augie March
blahem
Ironic that a party calling itself Change, literally doesn't want to change anything at all
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
... the more political opportunists show how flexible they can be
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