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Change UK: Chuka Umunna resigns from Labour party and launches Independent Group

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Ohh, so radical a wet rehash of the same unless ombudsmen we have now.
 
SpookyFrank said:
But is it bad enough to be worth reading for entertainment purposes?
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Honestly? Not really, It generally just confirms ideas you might have about the Tingers and what they stand for. It will probably be good value in the future for pointing out hypocrisy but I don’t subscribe to gotcha culture anyway - it’s clear what they want, it’s what you always thought, and nobody worth arguing with takes them seriously enough for direct examples to be worth citing.

I did find his bitter comments about the perception of centrism a bit funny.
 
ska invita said:
A reconfiguration between the LDs and Tinge. Cable has been talking about it for weeks
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OK, I hadn't been aware of that, TBH

Apparently, the LibDems
now sit alongside the Independent Group (Tig) as the joint-fourth largest grouping in the House of Commons, with 11 MPs. But while the breakaway group of ex-Conservative and Labour MPs has the benefit of being a new entity attracting considerable attention, the Liberal Democrats have struggled to make headway in the opinion polls and both the Lib Dems and Tig have dismissed talk of any kind of merger.
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So I don't think Cable's retirement necessarily has anything to do with Chuka's mob
 
Not sure where that quote comes from but "both the Lib Dems and Tig have dismissed talk of any kind of merger" may be technically true but it isnt the whole picture
There has been endless talk about 'arrangements' between the two groups in the press, often coming from Cable himself
Vince Cable: I’ll build a new home for Labour rebels

Last time i looked the impression was definitely agreement about an informal arrangement so they wouldnt stand against each other, and that regular meetings were taking place about a common strategy. From Cables mouth below:
ska invita said:
Vince Cable confirms that there will be weekly meetings between LD and TINGE, and was prepared to go as far as to say there will be some kind of "arrangement" around who will stand in which seats.
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TINGE want to form a 'party' by the autumn (conference season?) and Lib Dems are now going through another moment of change - a new leader will have the choice whether to align more closely with TINGE or not. Cable was broadly supportive - it will be mildly interesting to see what the new leader does about it, if anything. Logic dictates they should form an alliance, but who knows.
 
ska invita said:
Not sure where that quote comes from but "both the Lib Dems and Tig have dismissed talk of any kind of merger" may be technically true but it isnt the whole picture
There has been endless talk about 'arrangements' between the two groups in the press, often coming from Cable himself
Vince Cable: I’ll build a new home for Labour rebels

Last time i looked the impression was definitely agreement about an informal arrangement so they wouldnt stand against each other, and that regular meetings were taking place about a common strategy. From Cables mouth below:


TINGE want to form a 'party' by the autumn (conference season?) and Lib Dems are now going through another moment of change - a new leader will have the choice whether to align more closely with TINGE or not. Cable was broadly supportive - it will be mildly interesting to see what the new leader does about it, if anything. Logic dictates they should form an alliance, but who knows.
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Sorry, meant to include link. It came from here
What next for the Liberal Democrats?
 
ska invita said:
Not sure where that quote comes from but "both the Lib Dems and Tig have dismissed talk of any kind of merger" may be technically true but it isnt the whole picture
There has been endless talk about 'arrangements' between the two groups in the press, often coming from Cable himself
Vince Cable: I’ll build a new home for Labour rebels

Last time i looked the impression was definitely agreement about an informal arrangement so they wouldnt stand against each other, and that regular meetings were taking place about a common strategy. From Cables mouth below:


TINGE want to form a 'party' by the autumn (conference season?) and Lib Dems are now going through another moment of change - a new leader will have the choice whether to align more closely with TINGE or not. Cable was broadly supportive - it will be mildly interesting to see what the new leader does about it, if anything. Logic dictates they should form an alliance, but who knows.
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Tinge will get tango'd
 
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