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Celebrity Big Brother 2007

zed said:
Wow!! :D

Can you explain to me how Jade has "done alright"? Tell me one talent she has. Just one.
clearly she has to have some talent in maximising her business potential and sezieing every oppertunity...
 
rocketman said:
Are you sure about that? I think Jade's fucked-up attitude reflects our fucked-up education system, and 20 years of its mismanagement, its a way today's kids behave that has been foisted on us all. And could be part of the debate, but it isn't inherently working class.

Hear hear, she is 'our' monster!
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
clearly she has to have some talent in maximising her business potential and sezieing every oppertunity...

She was seized by a very good agent and manager which have definatly made her her fortune....
 
haylz said:
She is sad and fucked up, she aint a monster fgs:D

I don't mean literally mate :D I mean in a frankenstein kind of way, created by 'us' and then hated by her creator, 'us'.
Because, she is a sad reflection of us.....our society.
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
carphone warehouse have suspended sponsorship of bb on the beeb ticker now more soon apperantly...

Indeed - Carphone Warehouse has just withdrawn their sponsorship, so C4 is desperately looking for a new sponsor now I reckon.
 
Quite apart from the presence of Jade, Danielle or Jo, and regardless of the media furore concerning racism and bullying, Shilpa - as a character in isolation - has a towering superiority complex and, in tandem with displaying a distinct social prejudice and considerable self-absorption, appears to believe herself to be humble and non-condescending, when in fact she is the complete opposite. So it's really of no surprise that she winds people up.

Those she manages to wind up are another matter. Jade culturally uninformed but I don't believe she's racist. Jo: shaky ground. Danielle is clearly as thick as pigshit and it seems on hand at all times to to spout any random bullshit. The mundane truth is that they are all capable of being particularly unpleasant people. The whole shitstorm has upped the ratings considerably though so, hey, *result*.

However, if it puts the issue of casual racism on the high profile agenda, at least there's one positive in the whole pitiful farrago.
 
acid priest said:
Quite apart from the presence of Jade, Danielle or Jo, and regardless of the media furore concerning racism and bullying, Shilpa - as a character in isolation - has a towering superiority complex and, in tandem with displaying a distinct social prejudice and considerable self-absorption, appears to believe herself to be humble and non-condescending, when in fact she is the complete opposite. So it's really of no surprise that she winds people up.

Those she manages to wind up are another matter. Jade culturally uninformed but I don't believe she's racist. Jo: shaky ground. Danielle is clearly as thick as pigshit and it seems on hand at all times to to spout any random bullshit. The mundane truth is that they are all capable of being particularly unpleasant people. The whole shitstorm has upped the ratings considerably though so, hey, *result*.

However, if it puts the issue of casual racism on the high profile agenda, at least there's one positive in the whole pitiful farrago.

yes shilpa didnt endear herself to me much on her VT, when she said the most frightening thing that could happen to her in the BB house is if nobody recognises who she is:D FFS what a big head!!!
 
acid priest said:
Quite apart from the presence of Jade, Danielle or Jo, and regardless of the media furore concerning racism and bullying, Shilpa - as a character in isolation - has a towering superiority complex and, in tandem with displaying a distinct social prejudice and considerable self-absorption, appears to believe herself to be humble and non-condescending, when in fact she is the complete opposite. So it's really of no surprise that she winds people up.

Those she manages to wind up are another matter. Jade culturally uninformed but I don't believe she's racist. Jo: shaky ground. Danielle is clearly as thick as pigshit and it seems on hand at all times to to spout any random bullshit. The mundane truth is that they are all capable of being particularly unpleasant people. The whole shitstorm has upped the ratings considerably though so, hey, *result*.

However, if it puts the issue of casual racism on the high profile agenda, at least there's one positive in the whole pitiful farrago.

Good Post :cool:
 
acid priest said:
Quite apart from the presence of Jade, Danielle or Jo, and regardless of the media furore concerning racism and bullying, Shilpa - as a character in isolation - has a towering superiority complex and, in tandem with displaying a distinct social prejudice and considerable self-absorption, appears to believe herself to be humble and non-condescending, when in fact she is the complete opposite. So it's really of no surprise that she winds people up.

Those she manages to wind up are another matter. Jade culturally uninformed but I don't believe she's racist. Jo: shaky ground. Danielle is clearly as thick as pigshit and it seems on hand at all times to to spout any random bullshit. The mundane truth is that they are all capable of being particularly unpleasant people. The whole shitstorm has upped the ratings considerably though so, hey, *result*.

However, if it puts the issue of casual racism on the high profile agenda, at least there's one positive in the whole pitiful farrago.

I hereby nominate this as post of the thread :cool:
 
Right, I'll confess to not actually having watched any CBB, but I'm slightly at a loss as to exactly what has happened which has caused such a furore?

Every BB seems to have thrown up dreadful behaviour, arguments, bullying and violence amongst the particpants. I appreciate C4/endemol must have some responsibility towards the welfare of the participants - but essentially everyone is in there under their own free will, and likewise if people want to show themselves up as racists, then isn't their look-out?

Whilst on other BB's I think C4/endemol have been deliberately reckless (exploiting people who seem to be psychologically unstable, deliberately provoking inflamatory/violent situations etc), in this instance it seems that without provocation two or three people have exposed themselves as nasty, bullying, racist individuals...and??? what am I missing here?
 
zed said:
Wow!! :D

Can you explain to me how Jade has "done alright"? Tell me one talent she has. Just one.

Well, personal fortune is £8M I read somewhere.... without any talent...

...good to see the end of the protestant work ethic :D
 
rocketman said:
What superiority? What complete piffle.

Is it fuck. For example: what does Shilpa's insistence that she won't be spoken to by Jade in the same way that other housemates are spoken to by Jade - when she's used to people standing up for her when she enters a room and addressing her as 'ma'am' - suggest?
 
rocketman said:
What superiority? What complete piffle.

I agree...I can understand them feeling inferior around her but I don't think she's trying to make them feel inferior...She has been a bit controlling in the kitchen admitedly but she has also been far from a 'princess' in terms of getting on with stuff, cleaning up, cooking etc....that's hardly the behaviour of a snob.
 
Channel 4 are giving some sort of press release at the moment, probably about Carphone Warehouse.
 
acid priest said:
Is it fuck. For example: what does Shilpa's insistence that she won't be spoken to by Jade in the same way that other housemates are spoken to by Jade - when she's used to people standing up for her when she enters a room and addressing her as 'ma'am' - suggest?

Erm....has Jade abused others in the way she has Shilpa?...and even if she has Shilpa has every right not to want anyone to scream and shout at her in that way....afterall, Shilpa isn't doing it to anyone. I quite like being treated in the way I treat people as well....Does that make me superior, a bit of a snob?
 
Griff said:
Channel 4 are giving some sort of press release at the moment, probably about Carphone Warehouse.

It's a fantastic display in bullshit, reminiscent of Campbell and Mandleson at their best :D
 
acid priest said:
Is it fuck. For example: what does Shilpa's insistence that she won't be spoken to by Jade in the same way that other housemates are spoken to by Jade - when she's used to people standing up for her when she enters a room and addressing her as 'ma'am' - suggest?

No that is not what it means, and you are taking that out of context.
The way she won't be spoken to is to have someone yelling at here: "Your head is so far up your arse you can smell shit".

Now, I may be a unique individual, but I won't be spoken to like that, either.

Is it alright if I speak to you like that? You seem to imply it would be, well, either that or you didn't realise that is what Shilpa meant.

It's about self-respect and respect for others. And in that regard, the fact that black belt in karate Shilpa didn't slap Jade down on the spot actually makes her a better person than I am if I'm spoken to like that.
 
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