1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
I didnt mention the colour of the shirts!So Cardiff's success is all down to the colour of their shirt?
Cardiff City RedBlueDragonBirds 2012-2013 season
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1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
You are very good at dismissing other people's opinions based in how cpmmitted they are, of which you seem to have appointed yourself as the sole arbiter!
So if there is someone on here that has seen more games than you does that mean he has more relevance than you? How many games have you seen in the last 10 years?
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Me:
Season ticket holder for 12 years. Averages 4-8 away games a season. First live game 25 years ago. I support Cardiff having a club that strives to be the best whether it is in red, blue, green or in the nude. I'll still chant bluebirds whilst they do it but I'm supporting the players and not chastising the club when i do so. If we return to being a club where the owner doesn't care less about achievement but about ticking over just enough that he can screw money out of it (like several past owners) then I'll be unhappy.
Sat next to me:
First game 27 years ago. Season ticket holder for longer than me. Averages about 4-9 away games a season. Really hated the change at first. Come to accept it even though he wasn't a fan of it at first. Probably because we are winning games and he is loving that. He bought a red shirt but doesn't wear it.
Sat next to him: First game 15 years ago. Season ticket 14 seasons. Has completely fallen out of love with Cardiff and left the last match at half time. We were winning.
Season ticket holder for 12 years. Averages 4-8 away games a season. First live game 25 years ago. I support Cardiff having a club that strives to be the best whether it is in red, blue, green or in the nude. I'll still chant bluebirds whilst they do it but I'm supporting the players and not chastising the club when i do so. If we return to being a club where the owner doesn't care less about achievement but about ticking over just enough that he can screw money out of it (like several past owners) then I'll be unhappy.
Sat next to me:
First game 27 years ago. Season ticket holder for longer than me. Averages about 4-9 away games a season. Really hated the change at first. Come to accept it even though he wasn't a fan of it at first. Probably because we are winning games and he is loving that. He bought a red shirt but doesn't wear it.
Sat next to him: First game 15 years ago. Season ticket 14 seasons. Has completely fallen out of love with Cardiff and left the last match at half time. We were winning.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
I think the scale of the problem is far greater in your mind than it is in reality. At the game yesterday i asked everyone i spoke to whether the red issue was a problem for them. not a single person said that it bothered them!
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hiraethified
Most of my friends - life long Cardiff fans who have travelled all around England and Wales for as long as I can remember - no longer go to see the City. The 1927 Club has effectively ceased to exist, as far as I can see.
That makes it a little bit of a problem in my eyes, but feel free to dismiss it all in the name of SUCCESS.
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hiraethified
I know loads of City fans who still go to the games but remain fucking livid at the changes, so don't you go presuming that everyone's happily clapping along with Tan's terms.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
As long as they keep attending games i dont suppose Tan really gives a fuck what they think. It looks like he is delivering premiership football which is what people wanted.
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hiraethified
At least two probably won't be renewing their season tickets for the first time in their adult lives, but who cares about lifelong fans when SUCCESS beckons.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I've never known a season where fans don't disagree with fans.
About:
the owner,
the manager,
the players,
the formation,
the best pre-match pub,
mascots,
goal music,
drums,
racism,
the refereeing,
transfers,
team selection,
who deserves away tickets,
The home kit
The away kit
The 3rd kit
The 4th kit
Football IS fans disagreeing with each other. Tan didn't invent that.
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hiraethified
Don't be ridiculous. What's happened at Cardiff is not some sort of everyday football pub row that crops up every year at every club.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Isn't it?
I've known fans to stop supporting because:
Sam Hamman was owner
Lennie Lawrence was manager
Dave Jones was manager
Risdale was involved
The Kumar era - That one was me who left
and now because VT is owner
Someone is always unhappy with the club.
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hiraethified
You can keep on trying to dismiss what's happened here, but you talk to fans of other clubs and see what they'd think about their club being completely rebranded without any consultation at all.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
who gives a fuck what fans of other clubs think. Bristol city fans taking the piss yesterday while conveniently forgetting that they went into admin and ripped off local buinesses. Crystal Palace fans taking the piss and conveniently forgetting that they did the same, and better still changed their kit to try and look like Barca and even changed their nickname. Fuck em.
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hiraethified
I hope that if any other club gets out in the same predicament as Cardiff, their fans don't turn out to be as spineless as ours when it comes to protecting the club's heritage and traditions.
I'm truly saddened that a spin-off 'true' Cardiff team playing in blue didn't spring up in response to all this shit, because that would have been a team I could have given my wholehearted support to.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
but they wouldnt have any heritage.
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hiraethified
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
read the comments under this and then try and claim it hasn't divided fans
no denying it has divided people on here is there!
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footba...cent-tan-s-red-scarf-giveaway-91466-32822460/
no denying it has divided people on here is there!
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footba...cent-tan-s-red-scarf-giveaway-91466-32822460/
I know people who haven't been since they sold Toshack.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I'm not claiming that it hasn't.
I'm claiming that you could have probably found posts on that site that divided fans back in Dave Jones' day too. Calling for the owners heads for continuing to support him.
It's hardly the first time that's happened.
In the 70s the people in the Grandstand would happily have exterminated the entire Grange End if they could. And I remember running feuds between Barry and Valley Boys, and even town vs docks... don't think footie fans have ever been short of factions...
Clint Iguana
not an undercover cop
I think what is going on now takes things to a whole new level though... way beyond anything that has happened in the past. WAY beyond.
