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Brixton violence and looting (7th Aug 2011)

My next-door neighbour said she was told that people were being dragged out of their cars on Railton Rd on Monday night. Anyone heard that?

She's lived here for 30+ years and is absolutely livid. "I hope they get every single one of them, and if they're too young to go to prison, send the parents". She's a tough lady, my neighbour.
 
Ive scanned through the last posts and Im not happy at the personal nature of some of the posts directed at you either. Its derailing the thread and is uncalled for. Attack someones politics but not there personal life.

Im all for some robust political debate on a thread like this and Im glad that at someone from Council or other parties comes on here.
Yikes! I agree with Gramsci...
 
Gramsci, if Mr Bradley has pushed off (I wouldn't blame him) could you possibly point him towards my grovel? I know you are often in contact with those at the Town Hall on various issues.
 
Gramsci, if Mr Bradley has pushed off (I wouldn't blame him) could you possibly point him towards my grovel? I know you are often in contact with those at the Town Hall on various issues.

Well Im not that often in contact.

I expect Bradley would be told as I think some of those at Town Hall lurk on the boards.
 
Wondered if anyone could help me please?
I live off acre lane neat tescos but I m currently on holiday. Could anyone please advise if any residential property has been damaged as I m worried about my flat
Many thanks
 
Nah, haven't heard anything about that round those parts. I'm the opposite side of Acre Lane from you, it was almost all down on the High St and round CHL.
 
Don't want to get too off topic, but.. I went to Camberwell Magistrates Court this afternoon. Following all the fuss about 24hr sittings etc was expecting loads of looters to be up before the beak. I got there about 3.30pm and there were only two cases pending. I haven't been in that court before, but was surprised to find that in Court 1 the defendant has to sit in a glass box, and the "public gallery" is a sauna style enclosure with glass slats. There is a speaker system to relay the sound of the proceedings for the public, but it was turned off (or simply not working). Justice can be seen to be done - seen and not heard so to speak.
The judge looked a bit like former President Mubarrak, although he spoke more like Tariq Ali (as far as I could hear) , although on this occasion it was the public in the cage.
First up was a confused working class white woman of about 30 charged with looting one pair of ladies shoes (or so she gestured to her two supporters in the gallery). She was remanded in custody for a few more days for reports - "as there was a child involved" (one assumes she was a mother).
Second up and last for the day was a small African looking guy, anything between 25-35. He looked very innocent and demure, especially when the SERCO security guards kept flexing their rubber gloves at him. (Do all prisoners these days have AIDS/HIV or Hepatits? Or is it the SERCO staff that are infected?) Anyway Mr A denied any violence towards the police - completely contradicting police evidence. The judge sorted this out very elegantly - her refused bail on the grounds that the defendant's address could not be verified as genuine. Mr A became very agitated at this and was ranting on at the staff for a minute or two after the Judge had adjourned, risen and left the chamber.
On leaving the court I complained to the staff that it was almost impossible to hear the proceedings - they suggested I contact the building manager. They also confirmed they would not be open on Sunday, so obviously the Sky News/BBC News competitive hysteria has not reached Camberwell yet!
 
....... but was surprised to find that in Court 1 the defendant has to sit in a glass box.
They wouldn't have been sitting in a glass box had there not been a strong possibility that they would either have been remanded in custody, or given a custodial sentence. If "all options are open", you go to the glass box. If it hadn't been for the riots these folk would have been sitting out in the open. Their offences, I imagine, would not have even gone to court in normal circumstances.
 
If it hadn't been for the riots these folk would have been sitting out in the open. Their offences, I imagine, would not have even gone to court in normal circumstances.

Yes looks like offences that would have been given a fine or short sentence will get what Magistrates call "exemplary" sentence. Happens at demos as well. I remember the demo against the Israeli attack on Gaza. People were locked up for offences that if had happened on a drunken saturday night they would have got a fine or caution. Its political. If ur seen to have taken part in a collective threat to order rather than individual one the State comes down on u big time.
 
I now live a life of dull and monotonous purity.

I expect most of the looters will go on to do the same.

Yes looks like offences that would have been given a fine or short sentence will get what Magistrates call "exemplary" sentence. Happens at demos as well. I remember the demo against the Israeli attack on Gaza. People were looked up for offences that if had happened on a drunken saturday night they would have got a fine or caution. Its political. If ur seen to have taken part in a collective threat to order rather than individual one the State comes down on u big time.

There should be a law against that.
 
I know what u mean. I couldnt read it all. Sadly its representative of a lot of opinions ive being hearing recently. Guardianistas like me on on the back foot at the moment.
 
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