Brixton Ritzy staff in pay dispute for London Living Wage with Picturehouse Cinemas

[discobastard]

So what is the point for discussion you are making in your post 1044?

Should the issue about paying the London Living Wage be extended to other businesses? Should I boycott those other local businesses as well? What do you think?

I am not being confrontational (and I'll say for the last time I am not defending Picturehouse, I am avoiding them also), I am wondering what people think of that. Seems odd to single out one business, but maybe there is a good reason for it.

 

[Gramsci]

Should the issue about paying the London Living Wage be extended to other businesses? Should I boycott those other local businesses as well? What do you think?

I am not being confrontational (and I'll say for the last time I am not defending Picturehouse, I am avoiding them also), I am wondering what people think of that. Seems odd to single out one business, but maybe there is a good reason for it.

Im not singling out one business. Ritzy workers asked me to boycott cinema.

I've already posted up that I think the boycott was a tactical mistake.

 

[Gramsci]

Should the issue about paying the London Living Wage be extended to other businesses? Should I boycott those other local businesses as well? What do you think?

I am not being confrontational (and I'll say for the last time I am not defending Picturehouse, I am avoiding them also), I am wondering what people think of that. Seems odd to single out one business, but maybe there is a good reason for it.

As this is issue for you the Ritzy workers campaign have a FB page and you can ask them directly these questions. As it was them and the Union Bectu who called the boycott.

 

[discobastard]

Im not singling out one business. Ritzy workers asked me to boycott cinema.

I've already posted up that I think the boycott was a tactical mistake.

Why's that (genuine question). Read your posts but not clear on that.

So many people have no idea that there is even an issue, although there is a sense that people should have educated themselves about it.

 

[discobastard]

No response?

 

[editor]

Why's that (genuine question). Read your posts but not clear on that.

So many people have no idea that there is even an issue, although there is a sense that people should have educated themselves about it.

I think these people may have known about it. What's your take on the scene?

Laughing drinkers:

Looking at this:

 

[alcopop]

I bet they are laughing at poor people

 

[editor]

I bet they are laughing at poor people

No, really, what's your take on what happened there?

Would you be happy to laugh and joke and drink beer when there's a massive workers' protest against the venue taking place a metre away?

 

[Gramsci]

Why's that (genuine question). Read your posts but not clear on that.

So many people have no idea that there is even an issue, although there is a sense that people should have educated themselves about it.

Post 416 here for example:


Brixton Ritzy - upcoming films, reviews and opinions

 

[alcopop]

No, really, what's your take on what happened there?

Would you be happy to laugh and joke and drink beer when there's a massive workers' protest against the venue taking place a metre away?

It’s looks like their crime is to be middle class.

Hangings too good for them

Bastards

And yes I would be happy, doubt it was a massive protest tbh

 

[klang]

doubt it was a massive protest

fuck off, it was a protest to get fair, decent pay, to survive in London, you know....

 

[klang]

tbh, LLW isn't even 'decent' pay, it's just a few bobs to buy food and stuff.
they are being undermined and laughed at for asking for very very little and equally putting their livelihoods on the line.
the white shirts are cunts, regardless their class and whatever they are laughing at. they shouldnt be sitting there drinking, end of.

 

[Mr Retro]

tbh, LLW isn't even 'decent' pay, it's just a few bobs to buy food and stuff.

It’s nowhere near decent pay. It’s not even really a Living Wage

 

[editor]

It’s looks like their crime is to be middle class.

I didn't mention the class of the people drinking, laughing and joking in the venue that the workers were protesting against. However, I did find their attitude disgusting.

And yes I would be happy, doubt it was a massive protest tbh

I think that rather sums up you, your politics and the contempt you have for workers trying to get a decent wage. Shame on you.

And it was a massive protest. If you'd been there to support the workers, you'd now that.

 

[alcopop]

fuck off, it was a protest to get fair, decent pay, to survive in London, you know....

You really can't work our why I might be disappointed by the minuscule number of people coming out to support the striking workers? I'd like the strikers to get more support from the community. I was disappointed that barely anyone turned up.

Ahem

 

[klang]

Ahem

I didn't say anything about the size of the protest, I wasn't there. Now fuck off.

 

[klang]

+ editor wasn't talking about the size of the protest, but was talking about the number of people in support of the strikers. Again, fuck off.

 

[editor]

Ahem

Ahem what? You were disputing the size of the protest in front of the drinkers in the photo who were having such a good time in front of the workers.
As ever you were wrong, which is understandable because you weren't there. There was indeed a very large turnout that day.

Pulling up a quote describing what has happened on other days is completely irrelevant.

 

[alcopop]

Ahem what? You were disputing the size of the protest in front of the drinkers in the photo who were having such a good time in front of the workers.
As ever you were wrong, which is understandable because you weren't there. There was indeed a very large turnout that day.

Pulling up a quote describing what has happened on other days is completely irrelevant.

Hmmm

 

[editor]

Hmmm

I'm getting really bored with your disruptive behaviour. Either make a substantive point or go post your pro-scab eulogies elsewhere.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I didn't mention the class of the people drinking, laughing and joking in the venue that the workers were protesting against. However, I did find their attitude disgusting.

It's probably one of them.

 

[editor]

Respect

 

[discobastard]

No, really, what's your take on what happened there?

Would you be happy to laugh and joke and drink beer when there's a massive workers' protest against the venue taking place a metre away?

I suspect some people would be, yes. Like I say, you weigh up what is important to you and you prioritise things in life. Doesn't make you a bad person.

 

[editor]

I suspect some people would be, yes. Like I say, you weigh up what is important to you and you prioritise things in life. Doesn't make you a bad person.

I was asking what you would do, not what "some people" might do. But I guess your obfuscation reveals the truth.

And yes, it does make you a bad person if you're drinking and laughing right in front of people fighting for a decent wage, and treating their protest like a big joke with your mates.

 

[discobastard]

I was asking what you would do, not what "some people" might do. But I guess your obfuscation reveals the truth.

And yes, it does make you a bad person if you're drinking and laughing right in front of people fighting for a decent wage, and treating their protest like a big joke with your mates.

No it doesn't make you a bad person. That only works if you are laughing and joking about them, taking the piss out of the workers (that lot miht habve been, might not have been, who knows). It's great that *you* know what people are thinking and what people mean when they do things. It must be a very special talent.

You asked what I would do - read the fucking thread. Iv'e said it many times over that I don't go the the Ritzy.

'I guess your obfuscation reveals the truth'

You really are a plank sometimes.

 

[klang]

breaking a campaign of people desperate enough to put their livelihoods on the line might not make you a bad person but certainly makes you a cunt who doesn't give a shit about the issues concerning workers who make the very community you are partaking in tick.

 

[klang]

...whatever they are actually laughing it, they are breaking a strike.
so fuck them and fuck everybody who's defending them.

 

[editor]

No it doesn't make you a bad person. That only works if you are laughing and joking about them, taking the piss out of the workers (that lot miht habve been, might not have been, who knows).

They were taking the piss out of the workers simply by sitting there right in front of a large, noisy protest and guzzling pints and laughing away while the staff were fighting for their livelihoods.

It doesn't take any talent at all to understand that this is inappropriate behaviour, yet you're still trying to dream up excuses for them.

At least the old chestnut that 'they might not know the strike was taking place' can't apply. It was literally right in front of their laughing faces.

 

[aka]

They were taking the piss out of the workers simply by sitting there right in front of a large, noisy protest and guzzling pints and laughing away while the staff were fighting for their livelihoods.

It doesn't take any talent at all to understand that this is inappropriate behaviour, yet you're still trying to dream up excuses for them.

At least the old chestnut that 'they might not know the strike was taking place' can't apply. It was literally right in front of their laughing faces.

And yet the Ritzy was open, people were working there. Name and shame those motherfuckers eh? Instead of (as well as) some poor (well maybe rich) twats who showed up at what is effectively an outdoor bit of a bar. Did they look over and go 'wtf is this all about?' - Maybe - We don't know, we don't have a picture of that. On a slightly different tangent, no one taught the protesters to picket correctly. Someone should school them on picketing. Scargill, scargill, anyone, Scargill.

 

[editor]

And yet the Ritzy was open, people were working there. Name and shame those motherfuckers eh? .

That's just beyond

You're blaming the workers rather than shaming the people sat outside laughing and drinking almost in the faces of the protesters? Unbelievable. You sound like Thatcher. I'm not sure I can stand much more of this board's shift to the right.