Gramsci
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Another one on why cyber picketing is "underhand"
Brixton Ritzy staff in pay dispute for London Living Wage with Picturehouse Cinemas
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Another one on why cyber picketing is "underhand"
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hiraethified
I do recall some people voicing their opposition to this earlier. Perhaps they'll be back to say what they think now.
joustmaster
offcumdun
Gramsci
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I see you have changed your mind.
joustmaster
offcumdun
Are you on crack?
Fozzie Bear
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https://bectu.org.uk/news/bectu-response-to-picturehouse-ruling/
Seems like some wins and some loses... I thought it had gone a bit quiet...
Seems like some wins and some loses... I thought it had gone a bit quiet...
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hiraethified
Proud to say that I didn't give the venue a single penny when the boycott was active.
Brixton Ritzy cinema workers call off five-year boycott
Brixton Ritzy cinema workers call off five-year boycott
David Clapson
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Anyone know the details of the decision? I hadn't realised it was up for review or appeal or whatever. And why does it apply to 2 people? What about the third person?
Gramsci
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Now I can go to the Ritzy again decided to see if Ken Loach new film is on this weekend. The Saturday afternoon showing in screen three is an eye watering £14.50
I haven't been to Ritzy through out the boycott.
Been watching more films online. BBC/ C4 and also the Curzon site ( I get 12 films a month free as part of membership I have)
The cost of cinema going in some areas of London is high imo.
These prices at Ritzy are imo to high.
This cinema complex was built with government inner city grant.
Now its pricing is excluding locals like me from going often.
Sorry We Missed You
I haven't been to Ritzy through out the boycott.
Been watching more films online. BBC/ C4 and also the Curzon site ( I get 12 films a month free as part of membership I have)
The cost of cinema going in some areas of London is high imo.
These prices at Ritzy are imo to high.
This cinema complex was built with government inner city grant.
Now its pricing is excluding locals like me from going often.
Sorry We Missed You
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Gramsci
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Me either (well PictureHouse). The Hackney one is near me but I don't even remember it's there these days as it's so off my radar. I haven't been for years.
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hiraethified
Gordon Bennett!
Fridays from 17.00.
All day Saturday, Sunday & Bank Holidays.
Adult £14.50
Member £12.50
Retired £13.50
Retired Member £11.50
Student £13.50
Student Member £11.50
Child £8.30
Family* £33.20
David Clapson
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I'm afraid I never pay for films or TV. Everything's on Pirate Bay.
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Sadly barring the likes of Peckham Multiplex or Prince Charles, such prices are the norm across cinema chains in London. It is wrong and going to the movies has become unaffordable for many.
The Odeon in Streatham is only a tiny bit cheaper at £13.25, so it isn’t just Picturehouse doing it. Most chains offer half price days, or memberships for regulars that offer them better value for money, at least.
I went for the first time to the West Norwood cinema and was very impressed with the seats. Massive space and legroom. It was almost like business class vs economy on a plane.
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i agree it’sa good cinema, I’ve been once on a Friday night, but I would have expected it to cost less than the Ritzy. Over fourteen quid is a lot, and I was on a date so paid for two tickets. And you’d need a mortgage to buy a few sweeties from them. I went down to the co op and picked up a bag of wine gums instead.
happyshopper
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I’ve been once since the end of the boycott it and still felt guilty.
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hiraethified
Yeah, I still can't bring myself to go back.
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hiraethified
Yes they do. They pay the London Living Wage to all their staff, AND give their workers bonuses three times a year. So that's another reason to avoid the rip-off Ritzy and their shitty bosses.
Gramsci
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hiraethified
Makes the prices at the Ritzy - which was kickstarted by community funding - all the more fucking shameful.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Streatham Odeon is £11. I assume they want everyone to be members at the Ritzy. I was for a couple of years until the strike/dispute.
Interesting that West Norwood is the same £14.
Interesting that West Norwood is the same £14.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I don't know if anyone clocked it, but in the erudite newspaper "Brixton Review of Books" (issue 7) there was a long detailed reminiscence of author Kate Webb's days squatting in the Brixton area - and working at the Little Bit Ritzy. [I have lifted this image from their Facebook page - but it's only a taster]
Her views on the Ritzy at the time chime slightly with my own - but not wholly. She brings an unexpected critique of the Ritzy's violent and misogynist fare (in her opinion).
She says that in a screening of Alan Renais' "Last Year in Marienbad" she mistakenly got the spools in the wrong order for projection - but far from getting the sack, the (presumably pretentious yet ignorant audience) apparently failed to notice the mistake.
I can't say I went to that film, but I remember a showing of another French Renais "masterpiece" - Providence. I went to that because the original screenplay was by David Mercer, the actors included David Warner, Dirk Bogarde and John Gielgud all of whom I admired.
It turned out to be an incredibly turgid watch. I guess it might even be that the Ritzy didn't show it in the right order - maybe it wasn't my fault!
The final bit of Kate Webb's reminiscence I wanted to mention was her objection to a film called "God told me to". People may not remember that 1981 was a time when there was a vogue for bad films, such as "Invasion of the Giant Tomatoes", "Plan 9 from Outer Space" etc. - promoted by newly created Channel 4 and Alex Cox.
"God Told Me To" (or "Demon" as advertised in Britain) was promoted as a sort of paranormal "Dirty Harry". According to Kate Webb there is a scene where an image of a vagina is projected onto the (anti-)hero of the film. I did go to the show, but don't remember it.
Kate says after the show she cut out the offending piece of celluloid and took it home. After the 1981 Brixton riot the police searched her squat and seized it as evidence.
Not sure about all this. Just in case anyone has the patience, here is the Youtube version of "God told me to". Presumably there won't be a vagina projection in this - if only because sex is anathema to Youtube where murderous posing is not.
Her views on the Ritzy at the time chime slightly with my own - but not wholly. She brings an unexpected critique of the Ritzy's violent and misogynist fare (in her opinion).
She says that in a screening of Alan Renais' "Last Year in Marienbad" she mistakenly got the spools in the wrong order for projection - but far from getting the sack, the (presumably pretentious yet ignorant audience) apparently failed to notice the mistake.
I can't say I went to that film, but I remember a showing of another French Renais "masterpiece" - Providence. I went to that because the original screenplay was by David Mercer, the actors included David Warner, Dirk Bogarde and John Gielgud all of whom I admired.
It turned out to be an incredibly turgid watch. I guess it might even be that the Ritzy didn't show it in the right order - maybe it wasn't my fault!
The final bit of Kate Webb's reminiscence I wanted to mention was her objection to a film called "God told me to". People may not remember that 1981 was a time when there was a vogue for bad films, such as "Invasion of the Giant Tomatoes", "Plan 9 from Outer Space" etc. - promoted by newly created Channel 4 and Alex Cox.
"God Told Me To" (or "Demon" as advertised in Britain) was promoted as a sort of paranormal "Dirty Harry". According to Kate Webb there is a scene where an image of a vagina is projected onto the (anti-)hero of the film. I did go to the show, but don't remember it.
Kate says after the show she cut out the offending piece of celluloid and took it home. After the 1981 Brixton riot the police searched her squat and seized it as evidence.
Not sure about all this. Just in case anyone has the patience, here is the Youtube version of "God told me to". Presumably there won't be a vagina projection in this - if only because sex is anathema to Youtube where murderous posing is not.
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"Red Guard"(NLYL)
One of my favourite threads. Not because I like their films - but because they remind me of a mix of Tiny Rowland and Grunwick.
I spotted a bit in the City AM last week suggesting there were problems ahoy at Cineworld,.
This is the internet 12/3/20 version of what was snipet in the 13/3/20 paper
Coronavirus: Cineworld shares crash on debt breach warning
This is another briefing, which has an amazing quote at the end:
Cineworld warns it may struggle to stay in business | Film Stories
Cineworld, which also owns Picturehouse in the UK, is in the midst of trying to finalise a deal to purchase Canadian chain Cineplex. It’s, as is the modern way, funding the purchase through loans, and that will see it with several billion dollars’ worth of debt. All manageable debt, as in a report at the Financial Times, the firm’s chief executive declared “we are not worried”. He cited the fact that most of the company’s costs were variable, noting “if we don’t sell movies, we don’t pay for the movies. If we don’t see Pepsi, we don’t pay for the Pepsi”.
He added too that “a lot of our temporary manpower, if we don’t invite them to work if the cinemas are closed, we are also not paying them”. Which is nice.
For those upper class Brixtonians who still favour the wheeling dealing Cineworld mogul, he has not changed his spots.
I spotted a bit in the City AM last week suggesting there were problems ahoy at Cineworld,.
This is the internet 12/3/20 version of what was snipet in the 13/3/20 paper
Coronavirus: Cineworld shares crash on debt breach warning
This is another briefing, which has an amazing quote at the end:
Cineworld warns it may struggle to stay in business | Film Stories
Cineworld, which also owns Picturehouse in the UK, is in the midst of trying to finalise a deal to purchase Canadian chain Cineplex. It’s, as is the modern way, funding the purchase through loans, and that will see it with several billion dollars’ worth of debt. All manageable debt, as in a report at the Financial Times, the firm’s chief executive declared “we are not worried”. He cited the fact that most of the company’s costs were variable, noting “if we don’t sell movies, we don’t pay for the movies. If we don’t see Pepsi, we don’t pay for the Pepsi”.
He added too that “a lot of our temporary manpower, if we don’t invite them to work if the cinemas are closed, we are also not paying them”. Which is nice.
For those upper class Brixtonians who still favour the wheeling dealing Cineworld mogul, he has not changed his spots.
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hiraethified
Picturehouse showing their true colours again:
www.theguardian.com
Outrage as Picturehouse makes cinema staff redundant 'with immediate effect'
Current and former employees call cinema chain ‘irresponsible’ as it lays off staff following coronavirus shutdown
ruffneck23
front left
This really is bringing out the worst , or at least showing up the worst of people / chains , its appallingPicturehouse showing their true colours again:
Outrage as Picturehouse makes cinema staff redundant 'with immediate effect'
Current and former employees call cinema chain ‘irresponsible’ as it lays off staff following coronavirus shutdown
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Their financial problem is due to over-expansion issuing junk bonds, which predated the coronavirus, although this has been a near fatal blow.Picturehouse showing their true colours again:
Outrage as Picturehouse makes cinema staff redundant 'with immediate effect'
Current and former employees call cinema chain ‘irresponsible’ as it lays off staff following coronavirus shutdown
I don't know the cinema world well enough to know if there is any chance of independents relaunching the good bits such as the Ritzy, if Cineworld goes under. I notice Riverside Studios recently re-opened. That is a charitable trust.
The admirable Peckham Plex seems to be in a chain of two, with the Regal in Cromer.
Owner Chris Green is a cinema enthusiast.
sparkybird
ask the bird...
Fucking hell! I was 'just' considering rejoining after cancelling my almost 20 year membership when the strikes started. No way ever now..
