Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I think you should go back and read my previous posts on the matter.
You are willfully trying to make out Im being unreasonable.
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I think you should go back and read my previous posts on the matter.
You are willfully trying to make out Im being unreasonable.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Posts of mine 1207 and 1208 here on this thread.
Dressing them up as something else doesnt make them any less fortifications.
So you are saying people arent able to see through the camoflage and won't realise their significance if the experts design them right. I beg to differ.
I think ordinary people can see through this.
David Clapson
Well-Known Member
Anti-terror bollards come in a variety of designs. Here are some on Oxford Street.
Not really an eyesore. With the whole square protected, people can plan anti-slavery/BLM/cultural/Remembrance Day/religious events without fear of vehicle attacks by the far right. I think it's an asset for us all.
Not really an eyesore. With the whole square protected, people can plan anti-slavery/BLM/cultural/Remembrance Day/religious events without fear of vehicle attacks by the far right. I think it's an asset for us all.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Cyclists don't deserve a chance.
Where's the sport in that?
Where's the sport in that?
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Anti-terror bollards come in a variety of designs. Here are some on Oxford Street.
Not really an eyesore. With the whole square protected, people can plan anti-slavery/BLM/cultural/Remembrance Day/religious events without fear of vehicle attacks by the far right. I think it's an asset for us all.
They are great until you walk into one and smash your bollocks in....
newbie
undisambiguated
If you don't like cycling up the slope across empty space with cars both sides, and I sure don't, St Matthews Road/Josephine Avenue is your friend. Or at least, has been. The way Water Lane is being used at the moment makes it a bit less pleasant.
yup, none if that stuff in this picture
or this one
Or here
and here is an article about a company installing anti truck bollards on Oxford street
Oxford Street bollards
Safetyflex Barriers has installed its Truckstopper bollards on Oxford Street in London's West End. The company, launched in 2008, makes bollards in Coventry, in
www.professionalsecurity.co.uk
perhaps gramsci’s point is that he can’t see any of this stuff - However this disproves his argument that this stuff defaces the locations it is installed in
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that’s a load of bollards!
editor
hiraethified
Blocks galore!
www.brixtonbuzz.com
Yet more concrete blocks are plonked into Windrush Square, Sat 18th July 2020
The concrete cognoscenti must be loving what’s going on at Windrush Square, as another fresh batch of hefty concrete blocks were dropped into position early this morning, Sat 18th July 2020.…
www.brixtonbuzz.com
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
I think we must view these tempory monoliths as suitable surfaces for expression, art and protest. Now where is that paint that I need to use up ....
bimble
floofy
Monstrous as they are those look like things there might be loads of uses for, as canvases but also seats, soapboxes/ stages, picnic spots very short term market stalls plinths for statues human or other. They have more potential than the horrible steel bollards all over the place the ones with the slanted tops designed to prevent anything or anyone from resting on them.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Yup nothing in Parliament square. Im up in West End every day.yup, none if that stuff in this picture
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or this one
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Or here
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and here is an article about a company installing anti truck bollards on Oxford street
Oxford Street bollards
Safetyflex Barriers has installed its Truckstopper bollards on Oxford Street in London's West End. The company, launched in 2008, makes bollards in Coventry, in
perhaps gramsci’s point is that he can’t see any of this stuff - However this disproves his argument that this stuff defaces the locations it is installed in
Here are photos I took today of Parliament square. No bollards.
I took some photos today of Trafalgar square . Might deal with that tomorrow when i have time.
As well as your other points.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
yup, none if that stuff in this picture
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or this one
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Or here
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and here is an article about a company installing anti truck bollards on Oxford street
Oxford Street bollards
Safetyflex Barriers has installed its Truckstopper bollards on Oxford Street in London's West End. The company, launched in 2008, makes bollards in Coventry, in
perhaps gramsci’s point is that he can’t see any of this stuff - However this disproves his argument that this stuff defaces the locations it is installed in
The Alamy stock photo is of the barrier leading to the Mall. The photo is looking towards the Mall that leads to Buckingham palace. Admiralty Arch is behind the yellow barrier. This has nothing to do with "protecting" Trafalgar square.
Now when the Changing of the Guard happens the barrier comes down to stop vehicles entering the Mall. Its not about Trafalgar square. The yellow arches are there there to let tourist into the Mall to see the Palace. Its not about stopping people / cars getting to Trafalgar square. Its about stopping traffic going down the Mall during Changing of the Guard. Its lifted when the Changing of the Guard is finished. So its a temporary barrier.
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Gramsci
Well-Known Member
If you had been following my posts on this issue you would have seen Ive read up a bit.
See my posts 1207 and 1208.
There is an argument that designing these "anti terror" measures to appear to blend in is part of the problem.
I dont feel like reposting so go and read those posts.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
yup, none if that stuff in this picture
View attachment 222722
or this one
View attachment 222724
Or here
View attachment 222727
and here is an article about a company installing anti truck bollards on Oxford street
Oxford Street bollards
Safetyflex Barriers has installed its Truckstopper bollards on Oxford Street in London's West End. The company, launched in 2008, makes bollards in Coventry, in
perhaps gramsci’s point is that he can’t see any of this stuff - However this disproves his argument that this stuff defaces the locations it is installed in
As I said Im up in West End every day. Trafalgar square is normally busy. I hang out there in weekday mornings on north side outside National Gallery. Pandemic means its a shadow of its former self.
On North side by National Gallery where I sit in mornings I used to see the tourists queue for National Gallery and the street performers/ artists/ musicians turn up. In normal times that north side was packed. Also impromptu small demos on a variety of issues. I miss it.
I had another look today and the bollard are in the centre of the square. North side is unprotected. So are sections of the South side.
See photos of Ice cream van and the volunteers who feed homeless cars get around the concrete blocks on North side.
BTW I have no problem with the group feeding the homeless or the ice cream van. Im just showing how ludicrous "anti terrorism" is.
On south side whole swathes of the square are "unprotected" .
Its not that I didnt notice the bollards. Its that Trafalgar square has several openings enough for vehicles to get through that I didnt see the bollards as "anti VAW".
See below some of my photos from today.
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Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I was coming home late on Friday night about 9pm. On corner of Shakespeare road and CHL ( basically LJ) lot of police stopping cars coming down from Railton.
Presume it was about going through the LTN when they were not supposed to.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Bollards and concrete blocks look shite. Why the fucking argument. It's a lazy solution, the council are being shit as usual, and people who live here are the ones stuck with a crappy fix to a shitty non-concern (where's the risk assessment?)
Stop fucking moaning and sort it or just fucking live with it. Who cares that much. People on here a wilfully fucking arsey for the sake of making someone who clearly cares about this stuff look stupid for paying attention to the detail and showing concern beyond his own doormat.
Time people fucked off this thread if all they wanna do is support bad council decisions to get at a couple of blokes they think are a bit too lefty for their own good.
Everyone on here can be a prick at times, but the pricks that care are better than the pricks that just pick pick pick.....
Stop fucking moaning and sort it or just fucking live with it. Who cares that much. People on here a wilfully fucking arsey for the sake of making someone who clearly cares about this stuff look stupid for paying attention to the detail and showing concern beyond his own doormat.
Time people fucked off this thread if all they wanna do is support bad council decisions to get at a couple of blokes they think are a bit too lefty for their own good.
Everyone on here can be a prick at times, but the pricks that care are better than the pricks that just pick pick pick.....
Rushy
basically a scrotum
It seems like every time I pass a gate someone drives through.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Don't know exactly what you mean there, but I posted the Brixton Buzz story on Facebook and got this interesting reaction from Egypt
Hazem Hussein
I hate those cement blocks, years after the 2011 revolution in Cairo, downtown Tahrir square, the US embassy in garden city and the Italian embassy are still barricaded with horrible looking similar grey monstrosities
T & P
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Saw the blocks for the first time today. They’re truly hideous and oversized enough to handle a Challenger II main battle tank. They could at the very least have tried to align them a bit with the pavement and surrounding landmarks. As they are they looked like they’d been just dropped from a great height and let to rest where they landed.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Lord 'elp us! don't suggest puttin 'em straight. It'll be another 40k to mark up some plans then send the apprentice down Jewsons for a spirit level and tape measure.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Don't know exactly what you mean there, but I posted the Brixton Buzz story on Facebook and got this interesting reaction from Egypt
Hazem Hussein
I hate those cement blocks, years after the 2011 revolution in Cairo, downtown Tahrir square, the US embassy in garden city and the Italian embassy are still barricaded with horrible looking similar grey monstrosities
At least Egypt get it.
Bit of a harsh way to describe the pyramids though.....
David Clapson
Well-Known Member
They'll be gone in October.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
The youths?
billythefish
toad licker
They should be painted to look like giant chunks of fudge and nougat. ;-)
lefteri
Well-Known Member
turkish delight!
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