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Gramsci
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It's a judgement call
Reading the news reports she had already been interviewed by press. The Council had put notice on her home that it was an obstruction to the highway and had to be removed. She wanted support to stay so talked to the press. I thought the original report was fair.
Woman living in pavement shack says she's happier than ever
The 50-year-old get water running off guttering of homes and uses toilets at nearby businesses
It also depends on whether one errs on side that the authorities are doing things in interest of people.
I don't.
For the Council having a homeless person having the ingenuity to build a shack for themselves on pavement isn't what they want.
From news reports she wasn't causing anti social behaviour to upset people nearby. In fact she had some support.
Including the person who filmed the eviction.
She from the news reports didn't want to go. Nor from the film was she going willingly.
Years back in Brixton someone like this could have squatted somewhere and been left alone by the authorities. Imo the way things are people like this are liable to more harassment by authorities.
Anyway problem is solved for the Council. The obstruction to the pavement is gone. So that's an end to it
I doubt the lady has got much real help from the authorities.
Also after the BLM protests I noticed more people filming arrests around my patch. One thing learnt is that footage can hold the authorities to account. Given the lack of trust in them at this time I think filming stuff like this can make difference.
Gramsci
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The lady in the shack was detained under the Mental health act
recent article by MIND is critical of the powers it gives.
This article is from 2022 so not sure if anything has changed much.
This for example is two of their concerns:
recent article by MIND is critical of the powers it gives.
This article is from 2022 so not sure if anything has changed much.
This for example is two of their concerns:
- People detained under the Act don’t have enough say in their treatment. They aren’t able to choose the treatment that works for them, and the Act doesn’t offer a way to appeal decisions.
- There are shocking racial disparities in how it's used. Black people are 4 times more likely to be detained under the Act than white people. They're more than 11 times more likely to be subject to a community treatment order.
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Gramsci
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I got this from Brixton Neighborhood forum today:
A quick reminder that the Forum has an open meeting this Monday evening, from 7 pm at the Advocacy Academy, Vining Street SW9 8QA.
Our focus this time is on what's happening around Brixton Town Centre, including projects and events in the pipeline.
All contributions welcome
A quick reminder that the Forum has an open meeting this Monday evening, from 7 pm at the Advocacy Academy, Vining Street SW9 8QA.
Our focus this time is on what's happening around Brixton Town Centre, including projects and events in the pipeline.
All contributions welcome
jimbarkanoodle
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I think The Police film themselves with their body cameras as soon as things get hands on, apparently its actually in their interest as well as the person they are confronting. Apparently.....
Sadly I would bet almost all of the people recording such incidents on their mobile phones couldn't give a toss about the person who may being dealt an injustice, its for their own self gratification to put on their 'Tik Tok' or 'Instagram' feed for others to watch and comment on, in their social media world.
Gramsci
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Have you read the news reports ?
Did you watch the video? I've filmed / photographed cops arresting people. It is not always that easy. The plains clothes cop in video was doing the passive aggressive why ru filming bit I've seen before myself.
I disagree with the view that people filming these incidents are just doing so for there own gratification.
Myself I've covered some of the XR arrests. And posted here how police arrest XR people. It's not for my personal gratification or that I don't give a toss. It because I have gone out late at night (police started to do it at night as less people around) to document how the authorities deal with peaceful protest .
On the XR Waterloo bridge protest the cops blocked off both ends of bridge so arrests could not be seen. I slipped through a way they hadn't noticed that night.
I've also seen a few times police arresting youth in my area LJ and local people filming it. Not for selfish reasons but because in sections of black community at least police aren't trusted.
On police body worn cameras.
Their is a section on this in Casey report. Getting access to this footage has not been as straightforward as one might think. When report was finished the Met were still in long winded discussion with GLA about protocols on access to footage.
Just because Met agree to body cameras does not necessarily mean greater supervision by elected representatives. Met haven't been overly keen on that
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Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
and how often does it 'accidentally go missing' when it suits them?
Gramsci
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Bit late to look it up now but a GLA member was asking about number of time the body cameras were found to be "not working" so not recording recently.
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Changing the facts
That‘s not true though is it.
Filming the cops is done as a deterrent to heinous behaviour.
The entire time I’ve lived in Brixton people have always stopped and watched when the cops detain or arrest a Black person in the street. Having a phone just means that people film it, and so they should.
Tthey’re standing witness, not gawping.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
We have empty houses all over the place, people from London being rehoused in Coventry or Sheffield, Olive Morris House rebuilt as luxury flats for sale, council estates being purposely run down with plans to demolished. Where the fuck are people supposed to live?
With homelessness at the level it is, and no answers to the issue from govt or council beyond moving people about, or punitive measures, I have said for years that Favelas in our cities are inevitable.
well, it's definitely sometimes true. have you been on social media? it's full of people posting stuff for clout and not doing anything else about it.
I think it's possible for both things to be true - sometimes people are filming who don't really care its just 'content for their personal brand' while other people will be filming to make sure they have a record of what's going down etc
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Changing the facts
I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that jimbarkanoodle was talking about people filming people getting arrested, stopped, hassled, harassed, or even killed, by the police. Specifically in Brixton.
Like that woman who was sectioned in the street.
Because someone filmed it we know know with certainty what happened. Not from biased reports, but from the film. We can interpret it for ourselves. (Our own biases may come in at this point but the film is there now.)
When the police pull up in Brixton, passers by will stop and watch. To bear witness. Being stopped and searched by the police, being arrested in your own streets, that’s embarrassing and humiliating. But those watching aren’t gawping at the person being stopped, they’re observing the cops. If they’re filming on their phones, it’s to capture any misdemeanours.
There are some YouTube channels that post this stuff up but none that I’ve seen are pointing and laughing, they’re recording the behaviour of the police.
I know there are clout chasers etc but that’s not what I am talking about, as I think most people reading this thread know. And so far as I’ve seen, clout chasing doesn’t happen when the cops stop someone in the street in Brixton.
Could be wrong about that I guess but I suspect it would get short shrift from the local community. People tend to be pretty protective of the community.
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hiraethified
While I agree with your first part, I have to be honest and say I've also seen loads of late night incidents in Brixton which were being filmed by groups of hyped up people for the social media LOLz/hits.
It's pretty depressing to be honest.
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Changing the facts
Oh yeah, I believe that. I tend to stay out of Brixton Town on Fridays and Saturdays exactly because it’s Babylon down there.
Soho the same, it’s fucking hideous.
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hiraethified
I've seen people rushing over to film someone who's been knocked over in the street. It's horrible.
Gramsci
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Are you saying the women who filmed the cops dragging that woman into ambulance was doing that?
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Changing the facts
I don’t think so Gramsci
I thik we’ve got two simultaneous convos going on here.
One about how people film for good reasons, and the other about people who film for bad reasons.
The latter was pulled in by a poster saying “yeah-but” when imo it was pretty clear that I was talking about the former. I didn’t even think to differentiate, because the two things are so far apart as to be actually different things.
I thik we’ve got two simultaneous convos going on here.
One about how people film for good reasons, and the other about people who film for bad reasons.
The latter was pulled in by a poster saying “yeah-but” when imo it was pretty clear that I was talking about the former. I didn’t even think to differentiate, because the two things are so far apart as to be actually different things.
well, no I wasn't. but seeing as you're asking, I wouldn't be surprised. I don't believe for a second everyone you see filming the police/general incidents in the street are doing so for the greater good of the public and to hold the police to account. most are likely just doing it to show their mates or stick on tiktok and forget about it. I don't think this is controversial...
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Unfortunately you were wrong.
This wasn't two convos.
It was one trying to discredit people who film police.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
That is good. My friend ringing from the spot said it was a serious incident - and indeed there were multiple sirens at hi end.
Evidently the incident has been resolved.
GarveyLives
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(Source: Robert Firth)
Hopefully, Anne-Marie Cover suffered no long-term physical harm and is getting the support that she needs from an organisation that can help her. Perhaps someone could confirm that this is so.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
Nice PJs.
I saw there were two cars parked in that spot today. Its pavement ffs. If she was 'causing an obstruction' they were causing double.
I saw there were two cars parked in that spot today. Its pavement ffs. If she was 'causing an obstruction' they were causing double.
Ms Ordinary
randompointlesschemistry
I haven't seen this advertised anywhere, but I noticed that you can book a free swim at Brockwell Lido this Saturday 30th September - if you already have the app, its on the tab 'Sportaneous'.
No idea what it's about, or if you can book by phoning up, seems to be something to do with an Open Day??
GarveyLives
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Earlier today, it was finally reported that PC Nadeem Patel of the Metropolitan Police's central South Command Unit, who mowed down Shante Daniel-Folkes, killing her instantly in Stockwell Road on 9 June 2021 while driving in excess of 80 mph in response to an emergency call, pleaded guilty to causing death by dangerous driving on 21 November 2022 and was sentenced on 24 February 2023 to three years’ imprisonment and disqualified from driving for three years.
PC Nadeem Patel was dismissed from the Metropolitan Police without notice after a misconduct hearing on 4 May 2023:
Shocking footage released after Metropolitan Police officer jailed over fatal Brixton crash
(Source: Facebook)
The Late Shante Daniel-Folkes
“Our Police Community Engagement team will be working hard to listen and respond to local concerns stemming from this incident and trial verdict over the coming days.”
She did not "get three years". She, and her family, including her son who is now aged five with special needs, received a life sentence:
'Our daughter was killed by a speeding police car’
(Source: Janine Daniel, mother of The Late Shante Daniel-Folkes)
"Shante was such a beautiful girl inside and out. She was very funny, very kind, very loyal, very creative"
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I had to have my watch battery replaced today, and went to the Vilaage Atlantixc Rd entrance as I had in July 2019.
"Good" news is that after being led to another shop over the road where the shop-keeper had the micro button batteries, a tool for warch back removal and a vice with assorted jaw caps (see below) it turned out the job cost £6 - up from £5 in 2019.
What I want to know is why does vape paraphernalia as sold in these outlets bear such a close resemblance to crack pipes?
"Good" news is that after being led to another shop over the road where the shop-keeper had the micro button batteries, a tool for warch back removal and a vice with assorted jaw caps (see below) it turned out the job cost £6 - up from £5 in 2019.
What I want to know is why does vape paraphernalia as sold in these outlets bear such a close resemblance to crack pipes?
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