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Winot said:
Something’s not relevant just because you remember it.
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This is perplexing.
I suppose you could make me out as very very reactionary.
After all filming in a public space where people get stabbed is a risk.

If this had been filmed at a chicken shop at Elstree Studios th stunt man would not havr been stabbed.

The question is this - would some other unlucky randomly selected person have been stabbed in Brixton?
Or is there a link?

I stand by my original comment which illustrated how in a regulated situation a death has consequences.
The Health and Safety Executive used to analyse accidents at work, including deaths.
Maybe since nobody knows anything they won't on this occasion?
 
CH1 said:
This is perplexing.
I suppose you could make me out as very very reactionary.
After all filming in a public space where people get stabbed is a risk.

If this had been filmed at a chicken shop at Elstree Studios th stunt man would not havr been stabbed.

The question is this - would some other unlucky randomly selected person have been stabbed in Brixton?
Or is there a link?

I stand by my original comment which illustrated how in a regulated situation a death has consequences.
The Health and Safety Executive used to analyse accidents at work, including deaths.
Maybe since nobody knows anything they won't on this occasion?
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There may or may not have been a proper risk assessment for this filming - but supposing that you were doing a risk assessment for filming in a public place - would it be normal to consider "member of crew violently attacked by member of public" as something to worry about and mitigate?

I think it's obvious that a risk assessment for bungee jumping would cover things like making sure the rope was attached - because that's an easily foreseeable error - and so would be all sorts of things involving filming moving vehicles on a public road - but I'm not sure about what actually happened here.
 
CH1 said:
This is perplexing.
I suppose you could make me out as very very reactionary.
After all filming in a public space where people get stabbed is a risk.

If this had been filmed at a chicken shop at Elstree Studios th stunt man would not havr been stabbed.

The question is this - would some other unlucky randomly selected person have been stabbed in Brixton?
Or is there a link?

I stand by my original comment which illustrated how in a regulated situation a death has consequences.
The Health and Safety Executive used to analyse accidents at work, including deaths.
Maybe since nobody knows anything they won't on this
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teuchter said:
There may or may not have been a proper risk assessment for this filming - but supposing that you were doing a risk assessment for filming in a public place - would it be normal to consider "member of crew violently attacked by member of public" as something to worry about and mitigate?

I think it's obvious that a risk assessment for bungee jumping would cover things like making sure the rope was attached - because that's an easily foreseeable error - and so would be all sorts of things involving filming moving vehicles on a public road - but I'm not sure about what actually happened here.
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A risk assessment would include members of the public being in vicinity of the shoot as a risk and there should be a clear plan around how that would be managed particularly when vehicles are involved.

This would need to be signed off by your insurer prior to the shoot

on a shoot like this I’d be hiring a specialist health and safety expert to assess the shoot, make recommendations and produce a risk assessment. I’m formally trained in health and safety from a production point of view but vehicles, road and members of the public are specialised areas.

I’ve shot with a ‘super car’ in a studio before and had to extend my insurance and produce additional risk assessments even though it was mobile.



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David Clapson said:
The council has been leafletting central Brixton about the stabbing: "The council has put in place a reassurance plan with the police". Extra council wardens patrolling, extra police officers, more Tfl staff in and around the tube station. And a list of places to get support if you are traumatised. And warm words about how the council is working with lots of organisations...etc.
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A similar approach was also taken by Lambeth Council following the recent murder of Denardo Samuels-Brooks.
 
David Clapson said:
Two teenagers were arrested yesterday in connection with Shane Jerome's stabbing: Two arrests made following a fatal stabbing in Brixton

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The Metrpolitan Police have now reported that officers investigating the fatal stabbing of Shane Jerome in Brixton last Wednesday have charged a man.

Earlier today, Brandon Aldon McNeil, 18 (01.11.2002) of Lollard Street, SE11 was charged with murder, attempted murder and possession of an offensive weapon in a private place.

He is due to appear before Bromley Magistrates' Court on Saturday 31 July 2021.
 
teuchter said:
There may or may not have been a proper risk assessment for this filming - but supposing that you were doing a risk assessment for filming in a public place - would it be normal to consider "member of crew violently attacked by member of public" as something to worry about and mitigate?

I think it's obvious that a risk assessment for bungee jumping would cover things like making sure the rope was attached - because that's an easily foreseeable error - and so would be all sorts of things involving filming moving vehicles on a public road - but I'm not sure about what actually happened here.
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shakespearegirl said:
A risk assessment would include members of the public being in vicinity of the shoot as a risk and there should be a clear plan around how that would be managed particularly when vehicles are involved.

This would need to be signed off by your insurer prior to the shoot

on a shoot like this I’d be hiring a specialist health and safety expert to assess the shoot, make recommendations and produce a risk assessment. I’m formally trained in health and safety from a production point of view but vehicles, road and members of the public are specialised areas.

I’ve shot with a ‘super car’ in a studio before and had to extend my insurance and produce additional risk assessments even though it was mobile.



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I don't think that filming a video with expensive super cars on a busy public road in a deprived area like Brixton could ever be a good idea, Seems to be a susch a stupid idea I can't imagine who could have ever approved that in a risk assessment. Is Brixton just regarded as a backdrop for 'gansta' style?
 
It's wishful thinking to expect professional production standards...this was just amateurs having a go, making it up as they went along. You can see from Reefy's IG/youtube/spotify that everything is very low end and DIY.
 
David Clapson said:
It's wishful thinking to expect professional production standards...this was just amateurs having a go, making it up as they went along. You can see from Reefy's IG/youtube/spotify that everything is very low end and DIY.
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why the expensive cars and hired bike riders then? I'm fed up of videos glorifying money.
 
friendofdorothy said:
why the expensive cars and hired bike riders then? I'm fed up of videos glorifying money.
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I have mixed feelings about this kinda stuff.

I recognise it as being hollow and destructive commercialisation

However I do think there is a legitimate aspiration angle here. You may feel like you living in a society that devalues you but this song says that people who live here and live like you can rise up and achieve their dreams.

Some times living your dreams also includes a sports car. Who am I to say that's wrong?

I do tend to gravitate to hip hop that is more akin to
You would rather have a Lexus or justice, a dream or some substance?
A Beamer, a necklace, or freedom
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I can see a space for both but I know which is overrepresented.
 
David Clapson said:
It's wishful thinking to expect professional production standards...this was just amateurs having a go, making it up as they went along. You can see from Reefy's IG/youtube/spotify that everything is very low end and DIY.
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I’ve nothing against amateurs having a go, but doing this kind of high profile, blingy sports car shoot in a crowed area like Brixton is dangerous and has had an awful outcome.

if you are going to film any kind of no/low budget filming, you keep it in a contained locked down location.
 
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David Clapson said:
It's wishful thinking to expect professional production standards...this was just amateurs having a go, making it up as they went along. You can see from Reefy's IG/youtube/spotify that everything is very low end and DIY.
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I see you know about these things. Where is the headline video on his Youtube channel filmed then?
My suggestion would be the beach at Pett Level (pop 846) - not much to go wrong there then.
 
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12 year-old Kermani Jhonwilon (pictured above) has been reported as missing, having last been seen in the Brixton
area wearing a grey tracksuit, blue jacket and white trainers.

If you can assist with his whereabouts, please call and 999 quote reference 21MIS023120.1508AS with any information that you have.​
 
David Clapson said:
You're not the target audience! Rap videos are nearly all bling, people trying to get attention and look successful.
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Yes but just because an audience wants something doesn't mean it's good for them.
It's the McDonald's of rap.
You may be 'lovin it' but it may also be destroying your insides.

Part of a balanced nutritious breakfast?
 
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