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I would wager that the 'hundreds of pounds' you have raised for the ritzy campaign have been more than cancelled out by the dosh you've raked in for the brewery who owns the pub.
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How does one 'cancel' out the other. Please try and make sense of your weird claims. Thanks.

It's probably way over a thousand pounds that I helped raise for the Ritzy, btw, along with all the publicity I've posted up from the strikes. How much have you raised? What have you done to support them?
 
Can I just say, as a long time reader and occasional poster on these boards, how utterly fascinating, informative and constructive the comments above are ? It's so worth logging onto U75 every morning just to read this kind of enlightening and life-affirming dialogue.
 
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It's pretty basic isn't it. You can't be responsible for the pay and conditions of everyone who works anywhere you go. What you can do is not actively undermine industrial action where it is being taken by the workers. So if there's a strike on you don't go there.

If editor was busy undermining strike action somewhere else while supporting the Ritzy workers then you'd have a valid charge of hypocrisy. I don't believe he is though.
 
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You're right. Hypocrisy was too strong a charge, I agree and apologies to editor.

I do think the idea of a sticker is a brilliant one though and have emailed the guys behind the campaign to see if they've considered it.

Personally as a venue of course the albert is preferable to the completely soulless market house but there's a certain irony in the strikers marching straight down from the ritzy to piss it up to a pub garnering profits for a company which doesn't pay the wage. But hey, maybe it's just me.
 
Reiabuzz said:
You're right. Hypocrisy was too strong a charge, I agree and apologies to editor.

I do think the idea of a sticker is a brilliant one though and have emailed the guys behind the campaign to see if they've considered it.

Personally as a venue of course the albert is preferable to the completely soulless market house but there's a certain irony in the strikers marching straight down from the ritzy to piss it up to a pub garnering profits for a company which doesn't pay the wage. But hey, maybe it's just me.
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The Ritzy workers can go where the fuck they like to have a drink and it's none of your business. What gives you the right to judge them? And, again, besides lecturing them about where they should and should not go for a drink, tell me what have you done to support the workers? I know I've done my bit. How about you?

Perhaps you missed the point that, being on strike, they're not going to have too much money, and the Albert is a LOT cheaper than Market House. Market House also charges admission on weekends. So who are you to suggest where they should spend their money?
 
If you're not capable of understanding the concept of irony then I suggest you and alanis go get a room editor. And please, calm down.
 
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Are you not able to have a discussion without resorting to personal abuse?
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What " personal abuse"? It's you repeatedly telling me to "calm down" because you can't answer my question about what you've done to support the Ritzy workers. You know, the people you're criticising here.
 
I'm not criticising them editor. I've made that clear. I merely suggested it might make sense for the strikers to hold their post-protest party in a venue that actually does pay london living wage. Do you not agree that might be a decent idea?
 
I gather that it's only a recent occurrence that the market house has done the right thing so perfectly understandable that the strikers didn't use it in the past.
 
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I'm not criticising them editor. I've made that clear. I merely suggested it might make sense for the strikers to hold their post-protest party in a venue that actually does pay london living wage. Do you not agree that might be a decent idea?
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So you want the Ritzy workers to spend far more money in an more expensive bar - and pay an admission fee- if they want a post strike drink yes? And this is based around a set of principles that you don't actually stick to yourself. Nice.

I know you're busy nitpicking away at other people's choice of bar, but perhaps you could finally get around to telling me you've done to support the Ritzy workers thus far?
 
I've boycotted the Ritzy. Not sure what else I can really do?

Perhaps promote nights at bars raising money for corporations that don't pay London Living Wage?
 
Reiabuzz said:
I've boycotted the Ritzy. Not sure what else I can really do?
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Maybe shut the fuck up with your hypocritical criticisms of where the workers choose to relax after they've been on the picket line all day?

Maybe go along to their benefit nights and put some money in the tin rather than constantly whining about your hypocritical stance on their choice of bar? Have you bothered to attend any?

For the record, the Albert landlord often donates a bottle or two of shots for the workers. I'm always proud to be able to host the Ritzy parties, the workers are happy to be there and everyone has enjoyed the lovely, supportive atmosphere (and the free drinks!) of a celebratory night in their local.

Here they are enjoying the free shots I've just poured for them...

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And there they are enjoying the video I made of their strike actions:

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And here's a fundraising night I was heavily involved with (at the Grosvenor, who also didn't pay the Living Wage).

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Benefit for the striking Ritzy workers at the Stockwell Grosvenor raises over £1000
 
Please don't resort to personal abuse editor. And please. Do not accuse *me* of hypocrisy. I've already apologised for accusing you of such.

As I said previously, if you're intellectually incapable of understanding the (fairly basic) concept of irony then there's not much point in me engaging further with you. Ignored. :)
 
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Please don't resort to personal abuse editor. And please. Do not accuse *me* of hypocrisy. I've already apologised for accusing you of such.

As I said previously, if you're intellectually incapable of understanding the (fairly basic) concept of irony then there's not much point in me engaging further with you. Ignored. :)
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So to recap:
1. You've done nothing to support the Ritzy workers in any meaningful way.
2. You've not attended any of their benefits or fundraisers.
3. Despite this, you still feel at liberty to criticise where they choose to go for a drink, even though you constantly use services and products created by workers not paid the Living Wage?
 
Reiabuzz apologised, quite graciously I thought. Why don't we all move on and discuss something else? I'll start:

Allegedly the Bowie Bolt project has been abandoned because the necessary £900,000 has not been raised. (Have we done this yet? It's 5 day old news.)
 
Yes, you've covered it (the hopeless Bolt) but I'm surprised the failure has not been mentioned in this thread. Maybe the whole thing was always too yawnworthy to deserve brainspace. I must admit my first reaction when it was announced was 'Oh, fuck off'.
 
How's this for a subject: given the impact that our glorious Thatcher Death Party had in the national news, can we capitalise on our notoriety to come up with some sort of anti-Brexit thing? I'm sure the media would be interested and supportive. They're nearly all Remainers. The anti-Brexit march on Saturday was a hopeless, useless disaster in that it got almost zero coverage and didn't energise the anti-Brexit debate. I suppose nobody wanted to misbehave near Parliament - it would have been terrible timing. So we should fill the void if we can. Burn effigies of Farage and May in the square? Hijack the Ritzy sign again? What say you?
 
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