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Brixton news, rumours and general chat - March 2017
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hiraethified
I love watching the Jacks with an artisan beef burger in my hand, me.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I think that is the precise issue. From what I saw some American critics of Nextdoor think it has a down on people who are not "middle class" (American terminology).
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Changing demographics is a class issue. I had a long chat with someone today. Doing an average working class job. Says London is becoming to expensive to live in. Yet needs low paid service workers to run it. He said where are we supposed to go.
Same a few months ago when I talked to someone from Tottenham. His blunt view was ethnic cleansing was happening to his patch. He was born and grew up there.
When I was first in Brixton it was much more working class.
London needs a working class to function. But they are now treated as though they have little right to be there.
The specific issue is capitalism. This is how it works.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I just checked. I have chosen settings to partially obscure my address. So: I publish the name of the road I live on, which I'm content for people to know, but not the number. On the map, when you click on the green house that I live in, it returns:
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NEXTDOOR MEMBERS
Address not shared
Mervan Road
On reflection, I'm not even particularly bothered if some of my neighbours know my address. After all, all the big players: UK Government, Facebook, NSA, Amazon, FSB, Google, Five Eyes, can know far more about me than my neighbours. And presumably my neighbours harbour more benign intentions for me than does the Military-Industrial-Entertainment complex. So I have decided to be less paranoid about disclosure, a change that doesn't come easily - but I have noted that my teaching clients, who are about 30 years younger than me, are completely relaxed about living their lives publicly, and it's their world now. Time to retire the tinfoil hat.
"…Because you made a phone call…"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh4Q3A0jvKY
Jan 1999: The CEO of Sun Microsystems said Monday that consumer privacy issues are a "red herring." "You have zero privacy anyway," Scott McNealy told a group of reporters and analysts Monday night at an event to launch his company's new Jini technology. "Get over it."
One of the joys of Urban is that there is no tracking of my posts for advertising. I use FB. But am careful of what I put up there.Urban may be criticised. But it's one of the few places where one can post up whatever one thinks anonymously.
There are debates here I wouldn't see elsewhere.
All courtesy of the free labour Ed, the techies who make the site work and the often forgotten Mods. Without whom the site would implode.
It's all very well for people to criticize. But this site has managed to last despite the growth of other more businesslike social networks.
Which is an achievement.
phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
Come to Welling - just back from a trip - proper caffs loads of em , a pc shop with a very friendly and knowledgable owner , printer ink shop and a load of other shops for things that you need (or probably should need) and not an artisan bakery or pukka pad in sight. Loads of friendly folk and seemingly a multi-cultural feel (the BNP have long since gone). The hipster hordes (and worse) are at the gates of Urban to be sure.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
In Africa people can be very interventionist. I saw an incident in the market in Accra where some poor young chap was suspected of stealing something off a lorry and got brutally beaten up by a group of market workers.
Not much need for security guards there - or CCTV. You'd have been shocked.
phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
Have a friend who went out with a gift shop owner from Phuket. The lady who ran it would accost tea-leaf tourists and hold them in the shop demanding 10 times the notional price (which since everything had no marked prices was already extortionate) or else the police would be called. They always paid up and apparently italians were her best 'customers'. Preferred thieves to honest johns as they paid much better.
jimbarkanoodle
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what were the normal extortionate prices of the gifts? Phuket is notorious for scamming the fuck out of innocent tourists by intimidation, google the jetski scam for instance. Im sure the police, had they been called in this example, would be well in on the blag. if so, hardly interventionist or morally right.
phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
Buddha head masks which probably cost 100 baht in Chiang Mai wholesale for 100 baht she would try and often get 3000 baht from a Japanese guy who don't like to haggle. She would try and get what she thought she could get sommeone to pay. I should add she was beautiful, charming and spoke good English. tbf the jetsjki scam is extortion pure and simple - whereas if someone shoplifts (however extortionate the notional price of 'luxury gifts' then to a certain extent they have 'it' coming to them.
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friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
I find that is really depressing, but not surprising. I find the way privacy has been given up so easily baffling.
I remember a time before 1984 when privacy was common and generally expected. No cctv, no internet. it was a different world. You didn't even have to be listed in a phone book = 'ex-directory'. It wasn't all that easy to find out someones address, which as a queer woman living in homophobic times was essential. As a gay activist at a time when gay organisations where being burnt out, it seemed only sensible. When I was fleeing a violented, obsessive expartner it was reassuring. When someone I knew was fleeing an abusive family member it was reassuring.
I'm still exdirectory, I always tick the 'do not sell my details to third parties' box and I've opted out of the public list of council tax payers. I check on-line every now and again that nothing links me to my address and when it has (like directories publishing info on line that used to be only available in a limited way) I've requested its removal.
Which is why I refuse to have twatter/linkin/facebk/whatscrap etc. Never even did friendsreunited. I still like being private, or as private as it is possible to be these days. I know this makes me a dinosaur, but thats fine,
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
So you admit to being petty and pointless, then?
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I did Friends Reunited. As a Suffolk boy from Bury St Edmunds I should've known that these people I went to primary school with would all have become people with nice families sharing none of my metropolitan experiences.
Worst of all the guy who bullied me at secondary school had no particular view of Norman Lamb - erstwhile Minister for Mental Health, despite being his constituent in North Norfolk.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
My Ghana experience was not a tourist being entrapped - it was most a poor local man attempting to steal a coconut from the back of a lorry in an agricultural market.
FridgeMagnet
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I'm sorry, but this is a really serious accusation for the board and I must insist that you either back it up or withdraw it.
One of the important points about Urban is that while you might think the moderators are a bunch of unfair arseholes you can be sure that your personal information is not going to be used against you or passed on to others. We have a strict privacy policy; I've banned people and deleted posts which even hint at someone's RL identity many times as have all the other mods. Suggesting otherwise could be extremely worrying for anyone reading it.
So please either back it up or withdraw it immediately.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Refers to this thread "37 social units is 37 too many" says estate agent about Lambeth's shrinking affordable housing
Even if not specifically stated (although I seem to remember that was the general gist), unacceptable behaviour regardless.
Even if not specifically stated (although I seem to remember that was the general gist), unacceptable behaviour regardless.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
It appears to be nothing at all to do with anything regarding Urban posters, so I would reiterate my previous requests.
This is not a joke btw.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Other than they're all urban posters? Guessing I've misunderstood your request
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SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
I think you're confusing me with someone else.
I was outraged! Oops! Sorry!
Rushy
basically a scrotum
Thank you for bringing this to my attention and for giving me the opportunity to respond. I still have Editor on permanent ignore so hadn't noticed his earlier post.
I don't dispute that you have used your discretion to ban people and delete posts which even hint at someone's RL identity. And sensibly too. Indeed, I think it was you who once did this for me. That is not the issue here.
As a reminder of the context in which I made the post in question, the conversation was one about whether social media internet sites can be trusted with your data.
Spammy has kindly provided a link above to the thread which I was trying to recall. Judging by the number of people who pm'd me the link it seems to be pretty fresh in people's minds.
Having skimmed back through it for the first time in a couple of years, my understanding is that Editor began a new thread here on Urban75 with a boast about his use of an IP address which his site had recorded from a contributor. He used it to contact the company for which (he assumed) the contributor worked; and then shit stir.
It is common knowledge that U75's Editor owns and controls both Urban75 and Brixton Buzz and runs them very much as sister sites, usually linking to each other several times every day (the Brixton forum, in particular). When unsurprisingly called out on his lack of discretion with the poster's data he emphasised the fact that his target was a contributor on Urban75's sister site, Brixton Buzz.
Correct me if I'm wrong but editor does not dispute the fact that he made the decision to use a poster's identifying IP information which he had gathered on one of his sites in the way I have described. His argument is simply that he used data collated by one of the two sister sites and not the other.
Also correct me if I have missed it but Editor has repeatedly refused any opportunity to acknowledge that such use of a poster's data collected on one of his sites was in any way misguided. Again he preferred to focus on the fact that the data had been collected on one site rather than the other.
But it was never made adequately clear why data collated on one of his sites deserved to be treated any differently to that collected on the other. Is this distinction made clear anywhere to users of either site? All the excuses made in favour of using this poster's IP data for his own ends (amongst them that it was so easy that it only took a matter of seconds; and that the poster was a wanker estate agent whose views on affordable housing levels he found offensive and so he deserved it) could be equally applied to any Urban thread.
Having resolutely refused to acknowledge that there was anything at all improper in his use of a poster's identifying data collected by Brixton Buzz, the Editor then tried to reassure everyone that, although he felt his actions to be totally justifiable, the same thing could never happen on Urban75. How were we to be assured of this? By taking the word of and trusting the integrity of the person running the site. The very same person who had just boasted on Urban75 about his abuse of a poster's identifying IP data in order to contact their employers; to shit stir; and could see nothing wrong with this.
I believe you. I do understand why you see it as so important that users feel sure that their personal information and data is not going to be used against them or passed on. Trust is a priceless attribute in internetland. So it beggars belief that someone would risk their reputation by doing something so utterly pointless and stupid.
I have no bones with you FridgeMagnet . I have little reason to think that you or indeed any of the other non-proprietorial moderators are arseholes, as you apparently believe. I think you do a good job to be honest.
I hope that I have clarified my understanding sufficiently for you.
bimble
floofy
Where's the April 1st thread?
We have a new ukip chairperson! Good luck to her building on the 3% won by her predecessor.
I think she replaces Winston McKenzie, who was last seen in October, trying for the Oxfordshire seat of Witney, where he won 52 votes, less than half the votes received by the Monster raving Loonies.
We have a new ukip chairperson! Good luck to her building on the 3% won by her predecessor.
I think she replaces Winston McKenzie, who was last seen in October, trying for the Oxfordshire seat of Witney, where he won 52 votes, less than half the votes received by the Monster raving Loonies.
editor
hiraethified
What a load of squirming shit-stirring crap from Rushy. His claim that he didn't see my post is highly dubious too seeing as he has alluded to plenty of my 'ignored' posts in the past.
But just to put an end to his pathetic mud slinging - and to repeat what was said in that fact-twisting, outrage-manufacturing thread multiple times - I, along with all the mods, hold very high regard to the total privacy of all users here - even the ones who cowardly dredge up personal material to use against me. There is no way on earth we'd use what little personal data we hold against any user. Never. Ever. Never ave. Never will.
Any mod doing such a thing would get a shitload of grief from the other mods - and rightly so - if such a thing was done. That includes me.
But then he knew that anyway because that thread made our policy abundantly clear. In fact, we once swiftly removed personal info that was posted up about him once. Funny that he seems to have forgotten that.
But just to put an end to his pathetic mud slinging - and to repeat what was said in that fact-twisting, outrage-manufacturing thread multiple times - I, along with all the mods, hold very high regard to the total privacy of all users here - even the ones who cowardly dredge up personal material to use against me. There is no way on earth we'd use what little personal data we hold against any user. Never. Ever. Never ave. Never will.
Any mod doing such a thing would get a shitload of grief from the other mods - and rightly so - if such a thing was done. That includes me.
But then he knew that anyway because that thread made our policy abundantly clear. In fact, we once swiftly removed personal info that was posted up about him once. Funny that he seems to have forgotten that.
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