Manter
Lunch Mob
But if you have one your insurance will buy you another bike. Whereas if you lock it to a drainpipe behind a hedge, you may still be arguing with the insurance firm 8 months later.,...
Brixton news, rumour and general chat - May 2014
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Brixton Hatter
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Just round the corner from me there are four garages which are being knocked down so three flats can be built. There is no parking as part of the development. What's interesting is the section 106 agreement, which states that whoever moves into the flats will not be able to apply for a residents parking permit. Instead, the developer has to buy a two-year membership to a car club for the people living in the flats.
Pretty good idea I reckon, given the tube, rail station and bus stops are all within a few hundred metres - as well as schools, shops and everything else within walkiong distance.
Pretty good idea I reckon, given the tube, rail station and bus stops are all within a few hundred metres - as well as schools, shops and everything else within walkiong distance.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
A car club?
urbanspaceman
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This is the item in question. I have assembled two of the related Trimetals garden sheds, and although they're expensive, they do last well.
http://www.protectacycle.co.uk/index.php
cuppa tee
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in other words a car rental business masquerading as a community based club
one big difference is they don't use garages but store their vehicles on the public highway
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
I don't think any of them claim to be "community" clubs.
The cars live in bays taken away from residents parking - therefore they are near your house, which is convenient.
Manter
Lunch Mob
Zipcar or similar- you pay an amour per year for access then can hire cars by the half hour if you need to pop to B&Q, or pick up heavy shopping or whatever. There are cars all over the place- there is one in the front drive of a house 2 streets away from us, v conveniently. They're brilliant, we use them rather than own a car, we've even used them for weekends away.
cuppa tee
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the word club is deliberately used so they appear to be community rather than business
the fact they are convenient means they do not do anything to take cars off the road
really all they do is transfer car ownership from individuals to businesses
Manter
Lunch Mob
No, they store the cars where they can rent spaces. So industrial units, houses, flats, etc. they rent some street side bats from Lambeth, they aren't just randomly dumped in the street.
cuppa tee
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the price per hour + petrol must make that quite expensive ?
Manter
Lunch Mob
The name car club is the name for the industry- I can't find them anywhere on zipcars' website. And of course they take cars off the road- of the 6 people I know on this side of my street, one has a car, the rest of us have zipcar memberships. So that's a load of people who don't have cars that would otherwise have a runabout.
Manter
Lunch Mob
Nope, cheaper than Hertz and Avis, and petrol included. The only issue is availability, if a car is already booked for half an hour on Sunday afternoon, you can't take it. We'd do it more often if we were organised enough to plan in advance.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Petrol's included. It's normally about £6 an hour. Cheaper than a taxi. There's daily cap of about £49 I think. They are best for short trips.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I wish the people on my street would join a car club. You have to walk on the street cos they cover the pavements. We have dar too many cars that mostly sit idle
cuppa tee
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the claim is that there will always be enough cars to satisfy the "members" demand so if all 6 of those people wanted to use a car at the same time then the same number of cars will be out on the road....
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Who puts the petrol in it?
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
If the tank is less than a 1/4 full you fill it up yourself. There is a fuel card inside the car which you use to pay, like a credit card. Doesn't cost you anything.
Manter
Lunch Mob
Zipcar does a weekend deal now, somewhere like Kendalls is still cheaper, but you've got to get to Wimbledon to pick it up, which is such a faff
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Yeah, the traditional car rental places are definitely cheaper for longer trips, but I don't have a) an up to date driving licence, and b) a credit card, so they won't rent me a car
Manter
Lunch Mob
If you upscale that by the number of members, they have economies of scale. Even if we all decided to do something at the same time, everybody on every street in Brixton won't.
Manter
Lunch Mob
We have a discount card for Hertz and they are still staggeringly expensive.Yeah, the traditional car rental places are definitely cheaper for longer trips, but I don't have a) an up to date driving licence, and b) a credit card, so they won't rent me a car
Zip Car is Avis. They are a bunch of cunts although probably no more so than most rental companies.After I took out a fully comp waiver for a month while I moved they rolled the payment over so I was being charged for it every month.When I told them to fuck off I never agreed to a rolling payment they threatened to send the bailiffs in.That was over twelve months ago,haven't heard from them since.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
There are obviously more cars than members - otherwise we'd all have a personal car parked outside our house. There's two cars at the end of the street next to mine. I reckon they are probably shared by 20-30 people, maybe more. If they are both being used, there are other cars parked elsewhere in Brixton I can borrow. I think that's what they mean when they say "there will always be enough cars to satisfy the "members" demand."
cuppa tee
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I just popped out to the shop and saw some appalling driving by a young guy in a zipvan, for his grand finale he reversed out of a driveway into the path of an oncoming cyclist who if they hadn't swerved would have paid a price for the convenience of zip cars. I am not knocking the idea of renting cars if that's what people want to do but the idea they are the answer to a bigger problem doesn't work for me, the best way to get cars off the road is to make it inconvenient to use them which has been done, providing a convenient and profitable ( for the operator and the hedge fund that owns them) substitute just seems like a con trick to me
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Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Couldn't agree more.
Brixton Hatter
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colacubes
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Crown & Anchor is excellent but pricey.
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