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Brixton tube is still closed and there was a strange shouty man with a megaphone opposite mumbling something incomprehensible about the situation.
 
What's the name of that really posh fruit and veg store in Market Row (almost opposite the Express cafe) that turns into a bar of some description at night? I always find their bijou portions of vegetable on display rather amusing.
 
editor said:
What's the name of that really posh fruit and veg store in Market Row (almost opposite the Express cafe) that turns into a bar of some description at night? I always find their bijou portions of vegetable on display rather amusing.
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Unsure: I think it is a joint venture between Cannon and Cannon deli next door and Casa Morita Mexican
 
shifting gears said:
So you would've crossed the picket if the tube wasn't closed, then?

Just to clarify like
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I have never crossed a picket line in my life. I work in a cuntish profession, which I found my way in to by accident but we are unionised and we are members of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions so I would never face sanction for being late because I refused to cross a picket line.

All workers should respect each other, regardless of industry.
 
Are you "crossing the picket line" even if you aren't doing so to work for LU, then?

I don't really see how not using the tube as a passenger on a strike day is helpful to the strikers. Surely it just makes things easier for LU management, if fewer people are trying to use it.
 
teuchter said:
Are you "crossing the picket line" even if you aren't doing so to work for LU, then?

I don't really see how not using the tube as a passenger on a strike day is helpful to the strikers. Surely it just makes things easier for LU management, if fewer people are trying to use it.
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I suppose TfL is a strange one as so many have prepaid. Nevertheless when you starve a system of its end user it will have an impact .
 
Smick said:
I suppose TfL is a strange one as so many have prepaid. Nevertheless when you starve a system of its end user it will have an impact .
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In the scenario where I haven't pre-paid, if I get the bus or train instead of the tube, TfL will still get my money. So does that count as crossing the picket line too?
 
teuchter said:
In the scenario where I haven't pre-paid, if I get the bus or train instead of the tube, TfL will still get my money. So does that count as crossing the picket line too?
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I don't really know. It's not a general transport strike and the disruption to the buses is probably significant enough for the Tube staff to make their point.

Hopefully a large number of people in non-essential jobs have been able to stay at home today, or show up at 11 or leave at 3.

Jist like the Ritzy, others can gain benefits from industrial action.
 
shifting gears said:
No, because train and bus workers aren't striking.

This is pretty basic really, are you being deliberately obtuse?
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I get his point though. To offer an analogy: petrol station workers go on strike tomorrow. You fill to the brim tonight. Have you supported the strike?

Circumnavigation is not support. The buses will be bunged with people moaning that their £130 pm should give them more, TfL will have to find old buses and drivers. Payg income will decimate.
 
shifting gears said:
We'll agree to disagree. I was taught never to cross a picket under any circumstances - and when I make my way to work via train or bus tomorrow, avoiding the tube despite it probably running at least a partial service, then my conscience will be clear, as I have not crossed a picket.
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The question should be whether using the partially running tube, instead of using the bus/train instead, lessens the impact of the strike action. Maybe it does, because it takes a bit of pressure off the buses therefore reducing slightly the hassle everyone including TfL experiences. The same would apply to people deciding to work from home, though. So do you also condemn those who decide to work from home instead of trying to get into work by bus? Just to clarify, like.
 
teuchter said:
The question should be whether using the partially running tube, instead of using the bus/train instead, lessens the impact of the strike action. Maybe it does, because it takes a bit of pressure off the buses therefore reducing slightly the hassle everyone including TfL experiences. The same would apply to people deciding to work from home, though. So do you also condemn those who decide to work from home instead of trying to get into work by bus? Just to clarify, like.
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I suppose you just have to do whatever feels right. You either support the striking workers or you don't. I wouldn't cross the line, but I'm not sure what impact that will have.
 
teuchter said:
The question should be whether using the partially running tube, instead of using the bus/train instead, lessens the impact of the strike action. Maybe it does, because it takes a bit of pressure off the buses therefore reducing slightly the hassle everyone including TfL experiences. The same would apply to people deciding to work from home, though. So do you also condemn those who decide to work from home instead of trying to get into work by bus? Just to clarify, like.
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Nope. It's a basic solidarity issue.

Wouldn't really expect you to get it, to be honest, or maybe I'd expect you to get it, but pay it no heed.

To clarify - no, I wouldn't condemn those who chose to work from home, but you knew that already - I condemn those who deliberately, wilfully choose to cross a picket line, undermining the strike action.
 
"Crossing a picket line" to me only really refers to staff who disagree with the strike who decide to work. If staff at the gas works went on strike I'm pretty sure I'd still heat my house. If the BBC staff went on strike, I'm pretty sure I'd still watch TV. If you refused to cross every "picket line", you'd never get anything done!
 
SpamMisery said:
"Crossing a picket line" to me only really refers to staff who disagree with the strike who decide to work. If staff at the gas works went on strike I'm pretty sure I'd still heat my house. If the BBC staff went on strike, I'm pretty sure I'd still watch TV. If you refused to cross every "picket line", you'd never get anything done!
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I don't expect people not to consume BBC News when I'm on strike tbh.
 
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