Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Sorry.
Brixton news, rumour and general chat - April 2014
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hiraethified
Care to elaborate on this fascinating theory?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
How does it undermine the strike action, in this case?
shifting gears
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That doesn't merit a response.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
The arguments made by both camps on their websites are persuasive. Except, I wouldn't ever want to side with Boris Johnson.
Does anyone who uses the tube regularly want to see it entirely automated, all human contact removed, ticket offices shut?
You can be sure the Tories want to privatise it. Charge the passengers more, cost the government more and have some foreign government's national rail service run it and cream off the profit to improve the lot of the passengers in their own country.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Just like the power industry!
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Apparently caused outrage
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
That's the part you choose to focus on? Regardless, don't take it too literally but you could argue that if everyone took the attitude of refusing to cross any picket line, it would have disastrous knock-on effects with every group striking over reasons of ever diminishing importance as they know the company would struggle to survive a total loss of revenue. However, as I say; don't take it too literally
teuchter
je suis teuchter
If you choose to withhold the argument that could persuade me not to use the tube on strike days, then so be it.
editor
hiraethified
Exactly how many picket lines do you expect to encounter in your everyday life?
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hiraethified
Apparently caused outrage
Already been covered here and the discriminatory 'joke' has backfired spectacularly on the fuckwits who dreamt it up.
shifting gears
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If you choose to be obtuse, or actually genuinely can't see how crossing the picket and using the tube during the strike undermines that strike, then there's no helping, or reasoning with you.
But then... We knew that already.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
You gotta laugh
Chilavert
Undermining strikes :-(
So I've undermined my support for the tube workers by using the tube? If only you'd told me before Monday evening.
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So I've undermined my support for the tube workers by using the tube? If only you'd told me before Monday evening.
If only you had the nous to work it out all by yourself.
Chilavert
Undermining strikes :-(
I am very silly so I need people like you to explain it to me.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
No, more at the amount of effort people put into winning arguments on the internet
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Better than trying to buy them (or anything else!) from the camping shop bastard of Walworth Road!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
"Arsenal" and "panache".
Not two words seen together too often, except with the word "lack" between them!
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Yup. Never cross a picket line - your own or those of others.
I'm fully aware of how many people (I'd speculate it's the majority) think it's fine, that it's okay for them to cross if it isn't their strike. If they were unionised themselves, would they be so quick to do so? IME they wouldn't. They'd realise that showing solidarity is important, not just to the strikers, but to your own sense of self, and self-respect.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
In your lifetime, has anyone ever acted altruisticly toward you? If so, then you should have some idea of why it might be a good idea to show solidarity to fellow workers, rather than thinking only of your own convenience.
You'd get everything done, just slightly more slowly.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I did once chat abuse (a monologue delivered in a monotone about why scabs were disgusting examples of humanity) at a Radio London reporter on Waterloo station who was out soliciting vox pops while most of their reporters were striking back in the mid '80s. He blushed quite a lot. TBF, I wouldn't have castigated people for listening to the broadcast. I would have castigated, for example, people delivering stuff to Radio London's studios on the strike day, though.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I don't use it regularly or even semi-regularly anymore, but I don't like using public transport where there's no human contact.
I also know that some people who're not as familiar with the system as regular users are, find the staff and ticket offices immensely helpful. I won't claim that they pay for themselves in terms of public goodwill, but I reckon the first decent tourist summer after this goes through (if it does) will show what an appallingly-stupid idea it is/was.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Apparently caused outrage
Cuntitude usually does.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Except that with a few minor exceptions, that's not really ever happened worth a damn, strike being the weapon of last, not first resort.
You could also argue (and you'd have history on your side) that if more solidarity were shown by members of the public (who might or might not be unionised in their own workplaces themselves) to strikers, then the bosses wouldn't try to get away with quite so much shit.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It's hardly an effort. You're not much of a challenge.
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