Brixton news, rumour and general chat - April 2014

[Dexter Deadwood]

Well spoil your ballot to show you're at least engaging with the process but don't find any of the options suitable.

I might write a political slogan on it.

 

[Onket]

I can't find out which shower of shite hope to piss on us next. Forgive the mixed metaphor.

Forgiven.

 

[Onket]

Well spoil your ballot to show you're at least engaging with the process but don't find any of the options suitable.

Spoiling your ballot paper doesn't do this.

 

[isvicthere?]

Seen yesterday outside where Substation used to be: a Foxtons car getting towed. Hard not to say ha ha.

 

[friendofdorothy]

Spoiling your ballot paper doesn't do this.

Women died for the right to spoil their ballot papers
(and men too)

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

Women died for the right to spoil their ballot papers
(and men too)

Even more died because they did vote.

 

[DietCokeGirl]

Spoiling your ballot paper doesn't do this.

It shows interest / intent, as opposed to all the votes that don't get cast because people can't be arsed to walk to the polling station or whatever. If you know of a better alternative, I'm open to suggestions.

 

[friendofdorothy]

Even more died because they did vote.

eh?

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

eh?

Capitalism kills.

 

[classicdish]

I can't find out which shower of shite hope to piss on us next. Forgive the mixed metaphor.

To date the following parties have announced their lists of candidates for the European Elections 2014. Once nominations for candidates close at the end of April, final lists will be available by region.
http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/european_elections/candidates2014.html

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

It shows interest / intent, as opposed to all the votes that don't get cast because people can't be arsed to walk to the polling station or whatever. If you know of a better alternative, I'm open to suggestions.

I think not bothering is just as valid. A low turnout reduces legitimacy.

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

To date the following parties have announced their lists of candidates for the European Elections 2014. Once nominations for candidates close at the end of April, final lists will be available by region.
http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/european_elections/candidates2014.html

That's useful but really need a list of candidates for each ward.

 

[friendofdorothy]

I think not bothering is just as valid. A low turnout reduces legitimacy.

Then they just say the people are apathetic - when I'm anything but, I'm mad as hell at them. I'm still voting or writing 'none of the above' or 'women died for this' on my ballot paper. I know it doesn't change much, but its my small gesture, its my right.

Not sure why elections mean children are booted out of school for the day, I think parents should 'fine' the govt for holding elections in term time.

 

[Onket]

Women died for the right to spoil their ballot papers
(and men too)

I know.

 

[Onket]

It shows interest / intent, as opposed to all the votes that don't get cast because people can't be arsed to walk to the polling station or whatever. If you know of a better alternative, I'm open to suggestions.

I think not bothering is just as valid. A low turnout reduces legitimacy.

Dexter Deadwood is correct.

There is no point in spoiling your paper. You might as well not bother turning up.

 

[DietCokeGirl]

I think what friendofdorothy said sums it up nicely - there's always the whole 'Low turn out, people don't care, how can we make politics more exciting and/or simple for the public' debates after a low turn out. But I understand, and I really, really, really care.

 

[DietCokeGirl]

Plus, spoils are counted and recorded.

 

[leanderman]

Then they just say the people are apathetic - when I'm anything but, I'm mad as hell at them. I'm still voting or writing 'none of the above' or 'women died for this' on my ballot paper. I know it doesn't change much, but its my small gesture, its my right.

Not sure why elections mean children are booted out of school for the day, I think parents should 'fine' the govt for holding elections in term time.

On Brixton Hill, I note that Corpus Christi are never asked to give up their school. Sudbourne always is

 

[SarfLondoner]

On Brixton Hill, I note that Corpus Christi are never asked to give up their school. Sudbourne always is

That always irked me when i went there,my mates at Sudbourne got a day in the park and we never

 

[colacubes]

On Brixton Hill, I note that Corpus Christi are never asked to give up their school. Sudbourne always is

St John's in Angell Town has always been my polling station for the last 10 years whether general, euro or council election. Seems a bit unfair on the kids tbh.

 

[Onket]

I think what friendofdorothy said sums it up nicely - there's always the whole 'Low turn out, people don't care, how can we make politics more exciting and/or simple for the public' debates after a low turn out. But I understand, and I really, really, really care.

I think we all feel the same, it's just that spoiling the ballot paper is a complete waste of time unless you are intent on saying something to the one person who counts your vote.

 

[friendofdorothy]

Didn't 127 shut down about 10 years ago? Is it really still there? No idea what juniors place is.

My late night drinking days are few and far between these days -
127 alive and well - again - presume new managers, its got a licence now and a rope outside and everything
Juniors = the Circle offy (Dulwich Rd) - not a bar - just Juniors mates keeping him company, he is a nice man.

 

[DietCokeGirl]

I think we all feel the same, it's just that spoiling the ballot paper is a complete waste of time unless you are intent on saying something to the one person who counts your vote.

Spoiled ballots are counted and recorded though. Imagine returning a vote where the majority was spoiled. That sends a stronger message than not turning up.

 

[Onket]

Spoiled ballots are counted and recorded though. Imagine returning a vote where the majority was spoiled. That sends a stronger message than not turning up.

Can you give me an example of them being recorded?

 

[cuppa tee]

Can you give me an example of them being recorded?

there is a column here in the results for rejected votes .......... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Result...eneral_election_by_parliamentary_constituency
....which is similar but there is no distinction between votes deliberately spoilt, and accidental ones.

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

I'm in Coldharbour Ward but what does that mean in European terms, South London? I can't find the constituency and i'm not stupid

 

[Onket]

I didn't think they were recorded.

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

I didn't think they were recorded.

You were wrong.

 

[Onket]

You were wrong.

They aren't recorded.

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

They aren't recorded.

They are recorded but not how you like. I think.