Unfortunately even if parking was removed on both sides of the road it still would not be wide enough in most parts for a proper cycle lane and a vehicle lane wide enough for the bus. Shall I get my tape measure out?
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It was bad from the outset. TfL is now redirecting buses of the High Road and buses are terminating early. Lambeth’s projections of both traffic and pollution were both gross underestimates.
I think you’ve completely hit the nail on the head here. The LTNs are theoretically a good idea but the practical implementation is appalling. And, the Lambeth transport team have zero interest in hearing people’s views as they think that anyone against it is just a single occupancy lazy car user. There has been literally no joined up thinking with TfL buses. I live off Brixton Hill and regularly travel to Clapham / Dulwich with two young kids. Those journeys now take at least twice as long in a car. But the worst thing is that there is no viable bus option. The south circular / Christchurch road is wide enough in parts to implement bus lanes but Lambeth and TfL haven’t done this in tandem.
But - and you’ve sort of proved this here - Lambeth and TfL and the transport system of this city is aimed at getting people in and out of central London ASAP. That’s great for you and I who may work in Central London but for those that need to get across South London for work / school instead - they transport system fails them in a big way. Lambeth don’t seem to care about this. It’s just about bashing the car user and brandishing them as selfish.
An actual bus route would be a start. There's some buses that ues it a little bit but it could really do with some longer distance routes.
Where in Clapham are you going? There's loads of buses down Brixton Hill to the town hall and then loads to Clapham along Acre Lane. I live off BH too and also have two children (though no longer young) and I've never driven to Clapham.
From the middle of Upper Tulse Hill pretty much anywhere in Clapham or Dulwich is only around 15 minutes away on a bike. Depending on the age of the children then child seats, trailers, trailer bikes up to their own bikes. Most of the journey is on quiet streets through LTNs or through parks (Brockwell/Clapham Common) and there are protected cycleways in places too (Norwood/Rosendale).
Really don’t think that’s the case - on fact it shows the mayor and the council are listening and looking to make changes rather than doing exactly what the WEF want!!
I think it depends who you hang out with. Majority of my friends who live in the low traffic neighbourhoods really love them, although recognise that something must be done to improve bus priority over cars on Streatham.
Hello Crispy . Thanks for wasting your time! These are really good illustrations.. Can I share them?.
I’m only talking about this specific LTN. Up until now they have gone well I think. I think you’d struggle to meet many people who support the current one who live in and around it. I haven’t heard a single person who still supports it, even those who initially did. I was actually leaning towards support but worried that what has happened would happen.
The question wasn't to you - the poster I was responding to was talking about trips from Brixton Hill to Dulwich and Clapham.
most people are very poor at assessing risks.
The risk of dying is very small. The risk of injury a lot higher. As said almost everyone I know who cycles has got an injury at some point.
Yes me too, sorry I should have clarified. I live in it. Part of the problem is that those who speak up in any sort of support capacity are often shouted down, subjected to abuse. I stopped as me and my family were doxxed. It was quite scary. Kind of puts you off speaking out in support
So sorry to hear. Given the politics and views of the hard core antis it doesn’t surprise me.
Please do
Statistically speaking, you must have a selection of really, really, really unlucky friends. Or you're just making stuff up for impact.
