Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
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New OneLambeth video!! Showing lots of congestion (not in Lambeth), a rather pleasant looking cycle lane (not sure what they have to do with LTNs - any ideas chowce5382 ) and some references to the American legal system 
New OneLambeth video!! Showing lots of congestion (not in Lambeth), a rather pleasant looking cycle lane (not sure what they have to do with LTNs - any ideas chowce5382 ) and some references to the American legal system
Nice piano house sound track.
“the Supreme Court case stands a 55% chance of success”
Very precise
chowce5382
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No idea. Haven’t seen itNew OneLambeth video!! Showing lots of congestion (not in Lambeth), a rather pleasant looking cycle lane (not sure what they have to do with LTNs - any ideas chowce5382 ) and some references to the American legal system
But you took the time to reply rather than just watch it
The reason OneLambeth has included a cycle lane in the video is clear - it’s because this was never just about LTNs for them & their supporters but about stopping any restrictions on cars.
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sleaterkinney
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And then they start going on about the appeal, which they lost!. Bizarre.New OneLambeth video!! Showing lots of congestion (not in Lambeth), a rather pleasant looking cycle lane (not sure what they have to do with LTNs - any ideas chowce5382 ) and some references to the American legal system
sleaterkinney
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Is this another One Lambeth?
I guarantee that despite funding them, chowce5382 knows nothing about them.
chowce5382
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I’ve been funding them
chowce5382
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Not entirely sure about that. The people who really support the LTNs on my road are also very annoyed about the music/use of in the Park. I’m not actually that close but it’s is very loud but most people seem annoyed about the fact that it’s on for so long but there is only 15k spend on remedial work which they expect won’t be enough. They’ve also complained led that the council won’t say if it will make a profit or not.Notice that the same people that tell you to go and live in a village when you complain about our neighbourhoods being over run by cars also complain about music from the festivals in Brockwell Park disrupting their peace & quiet
Completely different issues it seems with different supporters/detractors. Mostly around us it’s been parents with young kids feeling that their local amenity is being used, without guarantee of pecuniary benefit and without it being put back to how it was
Yes - different issues. But many tell LTN supporters they need to put up with busy traffic in a city and then complain about disruption from this.
Here’s the council’s info sheet including how much money they get for it.
chowce5382
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Interesting. The guy on our road who used to work for the council and is always very positive said that, when he has tried to find out specifically what they are getting this year, they won’t answer. I suppose the figures above are non specific, undefined and don’t state how long the period covers. Last year, last 15? You won’t know either I suppose. The only reason I was interested is that he thinks everything the council does is generally great, including labour/cabinet councillors, but the amount they were getting from this vs remedial work seemed to cause him concern and he was annoyed that he could get a straight answer, just number like above
The money’s all from this year - the info sheet relates to this year only.
More information here as well including confirmation of the.above:
Thurlow Park News
Local news and opportunities to get involved from your local Labour and Co-operative councillors in Thurlow Park.
thurlowparklabour.org
Always a lot of suspicion towards the council but answers are generally out there and councillors very responsive to any queries.
Anyway very off topic - let’s get back on. Can you say why OneLambeth is using footage of a cycle lane in its fundraising video?
chowce5382
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Yup, he was looking at expected profit and was frustrated that no one would give a figure.The money’s all from this year - the info sheet relates to this year only.
More information here as well including confirmation of the.above:
Thurlow Park News
Local news and opportunities to get involved from your local Labour and Co-operative councillors in Thurlow Park.
Always a lot of suspicion towards the council but answers are generally out there and councillors very responsive to any queries.
Anyway very off topic - let’s get back on. Can you say why OneLambeth is using footage of a cycle lane in its fundraising video?
As to your question, no.
chowce5382
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Ed seems to follow them more than anyone else on here. It obviously still consumes parts of his day
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Also, it's true that Lambeth can be pretty opaque about stuff and that was a legitimate objection to some of the LTN info too. It bothered me at times, as someone who basically wants to support the interventions but had to go digging for stuff myself in order to answer various arguments against them. The decision making process that led to the eventual policy on blue badge exemptions is just one example of this.
For shits and giggles really - but yeah time to move on.
chowce5382
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This is very true Ed, always has beenI certainly seem to take more of an interest in it than you Charlie
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Well hope you pass on the info above that sets it out then.
This is very true Ed, always has been
What a great organisation you’re “treasurer” of then
chowce5382
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I would if it was profit based rather than income. They could bring in £1m in income and still make a loss that’s the point. With the council is all about the exact wording they use. This was why he was annoyed as there was no answer to the profit figure. Only one based on income which (most people assume) equates to profit.
chowce5382
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Yup, as I’ve always said, I just pay the bills. Money comes in, I pay the invoice when it arrivesWhat a great organisation you’re “treasurer” of then
chowce5382
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Income is not profit is it. No. So, you can ring fence the £100k and make a loss. Have a look at the above and tell me how much profit is being made from the event. That’s the point my neighbour was making. Can you tell him from the relevant bit above?
The income is the income of the council not the event overall and they say they expect around £45k for their costs.
chowce5382
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So, 55k profit then? I suppose it bepends how you mean management costs. Could just be third party security or cover every cost for the event. I don’t know. I had a chat with him about this and he was generally pissed off that he couldn’t get any kind of straight answer from them or clarification of how these costs were defined.
He seemed ok with it when it was the farmers market event (which was much more of a family event and which I pointed out definitely lost money) but was annoyed that he could get an answer about profit and that it was no longer as family focussed. I don’t think that really bothers me hugely (although I would probably prefer the over all family event I think as it was a nice community event) but the lack of transparency (when you dig into some of the details) is frustrating for a number of people
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