Jeanette Moo
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WHat? I thought they had big money backing and a PR firm going by what was said when I first joined this topic!
Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
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WHat? I thought they had big money backing and a PR firm going by what was said when I first joined this topic!
sleaterkinney
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35k is big money backing, and they're after more!
plz send more $$$
the one campaigns are clearly AstroTurf setup by a pr firm, who have now disappeared as they’ve found useful idiots to do it all for free
Not sure where anyone’s said that. £35k is big money though and could be very effective if used wisely - lawyers are very expensive however.
Jeanette Moo
Active Member
It was way back someone was adamant they had big backing and a PR firm. I don't have a brain like a computer like some of you able to scour back and quote reply numbers but its not an important point, just joking
Well if a PR firm is behind them they’ve done a very good job of hiding it!
liquidindian
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This is true. It's all the same bullshit but there's a massive variance in how nice a tie they wear over it. Some are so poisonous, though, that if I was a person who wanted to keep my good name I'd be running a mile from being associated by OneAnything.
I do find OneWandsworth's cardboard signs quite endearing, though. They seem to genuinely think they're good!
liquidindian
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hiraethified
What a fucking idiot.
"Eugenics is the practice or advocacy of improving the human species by selectively mating people with specific desirable hereditary traits"
From that OneTowerHamlets tweet is obvious that very few graphic designers oppose LTNs.
editor
hiraethified
I've just called him a fucking idiot on Twitter. Worth doing too if you have a moment. If I had more time I'd write a Buzz article to shame the twat
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Don't forget that this is the councillor who, in his motion to the council last year calling for all LTNs to be scrapped, included some small print that in his own, rather affluent ward, an LTN probably should be kept. Presumably it has some special characteristics that mean no eugenics will happen there.
I look forward to seeing how he does in next year's elections.
I look forward to seeing how he does in next year's elections.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
It's an interesting strategy - his ward is pretty unique in Lambeth in having a strong conservative vote, and barely changes in the new ward boundaries. He's unlikely to pick up loads of Anti-LTN votes in his own ward (as there aren't any there) and he doesn't need to alienate many people who've voted for him in the past to find himself without a seat. He only scraped in by 32 votes last time.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
They've spotted that a commercial service that says it will deliver stuff from a shop to your home by bike, picks up that stuff from a shop which gets its stock like any other shop does.
Therefore it must be a conspiracy by councillors to help their friends in a cycling advocacy organisation make loads of money.
snowy_again
Slush
He’s deleted the tweet now and tweeted the same message again, taking out the eugenics word.
Strange that he can do that, but still hasn’t read his own party's guidance on language when talking about disability.
Strange that he can do that, but still hasn’t read his own party's guidance on language when talking about disability.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Jesterburger
Well-Known Member
In the recent elections the biggest fall in the Conservative vote across the entire borough was in his ward.
In Clapham Common ward:
- Mayoral first prefs, the Tory vote declined 10% (average -2.5% across the borough)
- Lambeth & Southwark assembly member the Tory vote went down 11.5% (average -3.6% across the borough)
- London wide list vote the Tory vote went down 10.5% (average -2.8% across the borough)
(and yes I am an election geek)
teuchter
je suis teuchter
They had been notably quiet on them for some time (I assume for the reason you say) but then were explicitly pro them in their Mayoral manifesto stuff.
Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
What's the source for the traffic light data? It was released in a FOI to TfL. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/scoot_data_request_for_lambeth It's the raw data for Lambeths traffic light sensor data (SCOOT) from 2018 till early 2021.
www.urban75.net
editor
hiraethified
Although I naturally have every sympathy with Sonia, I'm really uncomfortable about the way the campaign suddenly centred around her once her plight was discovered.
That's not to say that some people in the group don't care about her - I'm sure some sincerely do - but that's not why One Lambeth was formed.
It's utterly dishonest for them to be now making out that the whole campaign is on her behalf, or is deeply concerned with fighting for the rights of the disabled.
Or to put it another way: if she didn't need a car, would they be mentioning her at all?
That's not to say that some people in the group don't care about her - I'm sure some sincerely do - but that's not why One Lambeth was formed.
It's utterly dishonest for them to be now making out that the whole campaign is on her behalf, or is deeply concerned with fighting for the rights of the disabled.
Or to put it another way: if she didn't need a car, would they be mentioning her at all?
BusLanes
Pedestrian
They had been notably quiet on them for some time (I assume for the reason you say) but then were explicitly pro them in their Mayoral manifesto stuff.
Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
What's the source for the traffic light data? It was released in a FOI to TfL. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/scoot_data_request_for_lambeth It's the raw data for Lambeths traffic light sensor data (SCOOT) from 2018 till early 2021.
That makes sense. I think the LDs are generally in favour Londonwide too, but I don't see there would be any political benefit to either party in Lambeth to be a full throated champion of the LTNs, given the fervour. Which isn't great if it is a principle they both adhere to, but on the other hand it would seem like an own goal.
Gramsci
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I remember this. Looking back their are posts around pages 66 about the anti LTN one groups being funded by shadowy right wing groups. But the money is "astroturfed" to make them look like genuine grass roots organisation.
Didn't last long but some here definitely thought it was a distinct possibility. But difficult to prove directly due to astroturfing.
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Slightly off topic but this is a really useful page, especially if you want to pretend to be ignoring a thread on this forum.
Jeanette Moo
Active Member
I have sympathy that its someone else feeling the same pain over the same issue. I saw Sofia speak at the first protest (in September?) so its hardly like she is new to the scene. I don't really have empathy because I don't know her struggle, I don't have to look after anyone disabled (just old). I am not fighting for disabled rights, for other rights. I'm fighting these because they have affected me. I cant think of a single other initiative that has affected me so much. Even Brexit is no non issue compared to life impact.
People were upset, united and protesting before they decided to go legal. Its one aspect of the whole thing.....and of course she has support of the group. Shes seen as being on the same side but is no way considered teh spearhead.
The legal case gets a lot of attention because it's reportable... but the small time I get to browse Facebook and other places I see 20 different things happening. Different areas meeting to flyer, people making big signs for the outside their house (like for sale signs), petitioning, people in streatham doing their own detailed before and after traffic counts and on and on. It might appear like it was centered around her but that's given the court case was literaly just going on, it was an exciting time.
cuppa tee
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...not a bad move considering the weird antics that are being revealed.
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hiraethified
Yet for all the noise One Lambeth made, and their insistence that they were representing a majority of residents, they could barely muster a crowd of 40 people for their disastrously back-firing Windrush Square rally.
On a related note, there was a big traffic queue on Coldharbour Lane earlier and I decided to do a rough count of the amount of cars that had only one person in them. It was around 70%. That has to change, no?
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