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Terrible music? There was some great music in the 80s. The Specials, The Beat, The Au Pairs... I could list some more.

Musically the 80s started in 1982. After the punk/post punk/new wave renaissance had withered away and the man was back in charge.
 
Terrible music? There was some great music in the 80s. The Specials, The Beat, The Au Pairs... I could list some more.

bunnymen,cure, aztec camera etc kiiling joke
Musically the 80s started in 1982. After the punk/post punk/new wave renaissance had withered away and the man was back in charge.


1986 - Farley Jackmaster Funk - Love Can't turn Around - UK #1
1988 - ? Acid 'Ouse
 
bunnymen,cure, aztec camera etc kiiling joke



1986 - Farley Jackmaster Funk - Love Can't turn Around - UK #1
1988 - ? Acid 'Ouse

there was some goods stuff obv - but the mainstream was shit. look at what was in the top 10 between 78 and 82 and compare with 82 - 89. And the bunnymen and the cures best stuff was pre 82.
 
The mid to late 70s, more like. The rise in fortunes of parties like UKIP almost mirror the gains made by the NF and its splinters.
Don't think it's a reflection at all of the 70s and the NF.
Like it or not UKIP are becoming more accepted by the mainstream and are not regarded as thuggish or even as racist as the NF were.
Also I would put money on UKIP being a more permanent feature of the British political landscape.
 
Don't think it's a reflection at all of the 70s and the NF.
Like it or not UKIP are becoming more accepted by the mainstream and are not regarded as thuggish or even as racist as the NF were.
Also I would put money on UKIP being a more permanent feature of the British political landscape.
UKIP's success is the reason why racist language has been legitimised. Now I recognise that Thatcher had done this previously by stealing the NF's clothes, but UKIP are the inheritors of her mantle.
 
UKIP's success is the reason why racist language has been legitimised. Now I recognise that Thatcher had done this previously by stealing the NF's clothes, but UKIP are the inheritors of her mantle.

I am not sure that racist language has been legitimised. The majority of people I know who think immigration should be more controlled and resent , as they see it, as people arriving to the country having never contributed getting benefits are not racist in any way.many of them have mixed families or actually have non British heritage and live side by side with people from all over the place. None of them are saying ' if they are black send them back'
 
Musically the 80s started in 1982. After the punk/post punk/new wave renaissance had withered away and the man was back in charge.

Actually there was a whole swathe of music that was both popular and oppositional to the man in charge. I wouldn't subscribe to a history of music based on Top of the Pops 2.
 
Actually there was a whole swathe of music that was both popular and oppositional to the man in charge. I wouldn't subscribe to a history of music based on Top of the Pops 2.

TOTP 2 !!!! I WAS THERE MAN!!!!!

And yes there was some decent music - but it didn't trouble the charts or get played on the radio much. E.g - the biggest alternative band of the later 80s - The Smiths - only had 1 top ten hit. The likes of the specials and the jam had a whole string of top 5 hits and a few no 1s. From about 1982 you had to dig out the good stuff - you didn't hear it on daytime radio, or playing in shops or in the background on eastenders etc.
 
I am not sure that racist language has been legitimised. The majority of people I know who think immigration should be more controlled and resent , as they see it, as people arriving to the country having never contributed getting benefits are not racist in any way.many of them have mixed families or actually have non British heritage and live side by side with people from all over the place. None of them are saying ' if they are black send them back'


I just can't see what is racist about the contributory principle in relation to benefits, either oneself or historically through family paying in, etc, this is common across the EU, I know when I cited this a couple of years ago on here, that was the gist of the response.
 
I just can't see what is racist about the contributory principle in relation to benefits, either oneself or historically through family paying in, etc, this is common across the EU, I know when I cited this a couple of years ago on here, that was the gist of the response.
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