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one tells the other mason you're a bit of a newbie. yeh they are similar: but not the same. like the class war skull and crossbones and the ss totenkopf skull and crossbones are similar: but not the same.

They are all the mason’s handshake. The only difference is which of 3 levels you think you’re at. I do wonder what happens with those with big egos but little hands.
 
Any truth, does anybody know, in the myth that wearing brogues if appearing in court is a good idea as they're some kind of masonic signal to any potential masonic judge/magistrate.

It sounded a bit far-fetched to me. But then, on the other hand, I failed to see how it could hurt to try it if ever up on a charge.
 
Any truth, does anybody know, in the myth that wearing brogues if appearing in court is a good idea as they're some kind of masonic signal to any potential masonic judge/magistrate.

It sounded a bit far-fetched to me. But then, on the other hand, I failed to see how it could hurt to try it if ever up on a charge.
if you go into a court you'll see how difficult it would be for the judge or magistrate to get a good look at your shoes. and you never know if you'll get a woman judge or magistrate, which - unless they're a co-mason - would render the effort pointless.
 
Any truth, does anybody know, in the myth that wearing brogues if appearing in court is a good idea as they're some kind of masonic signal to any potential masonic judge/magistrate.

It sounded a bit far-fetched to me. But then, on the other hand, I failed to see how it could hurt to try it if ever up on a charge.

Maybe if you walked in hand standing or sported a brogue necklace

I’ve worn a unit tie and taken an 18 year old 2nd Lt with me to court previously. That worked quite well
 
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you can see they're not all the same
one for the interesting facts thread perhaps, but it was Irving Berlin, a 14th degree Mason, who wrote the lines 'one two three four i declare a thumb war'
 
there is no 'the mason's shake'.

there are masons' handshakes, for entered apprentice, fellow craft and master mason.
Shows how much you know. Here are the First, Second, Third and Fourth Degree Mason's Shakes:
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if you go into a court you'll see how difficult it would be for the judge or magistrate to get a good look at your shoes. and you never know if you'll get a woman judge or magistrate, which - unless they're a co-mason - would render the effort pointless.
Think this is crossing over into territory for the short trousers thread.
 
It's the Catholics that run this forum not the masons.
How many popes have been called Urban and what's the name of this forum....think about it.
The number 75 also has occult connotations which I have yet to make up.
The numerical values of Hebrew word LILE meaning night, GhGB meaning lust, EILL meaning Lucifer, and ILLE meaning to lament, gives each one 75.

Nuff said.
 
Btw, I can't believe Paul Golding's only four years older than me, he seems to have the same premature ageing thing (caused by bitterness?) as Looza does.

You're very good at these twitter wind-ups, fancy starting a rumor on there?

So, Tommy Robinson led his group up to Chinatown and then jumped in a taxi and fled the area, just before the riot police turned-up. :hmm:

Does anyone who uses twitter, fancy starting a rumor that Robinson deliberately led them into a police trap?
 
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