Britain First

[seventh bullet]

i don't really have a problem with people taking the piss out of them. i think mockery is a very important part of combating fascism - make them look absurd, you know. Celtic Britain First do it perfectly. But mockery on its own is not enough.

Depends on what the mockery is about. More often than not it's naked, class-based sneering which is counter-productive (from a progressive, pro-working class point of view).

A twat pretending to be eastern European ran away from the forum a couple of months ago for coming out with 'chav' shit re fascism on the Ukraine thread and getting a robust response from people here.

 

[Pickman's model]

Quick run down on their roadshow

Glasgow - 18 turned up to be met by 100+ anti fascists. Most of the 18 were the halfwits who invade mosques
Newcastle 13 turned up. Most of the 13 were the halfwits who invade mosques
Sheffield - Landlord cancelled on them and told them to fuck off when they turned up and he realised who they were. Called the police on them. Meeting got cancelled.
Wigan - Ongoing now - around eight turned up in addition to the halfwits who invade mosques - 20 or so anti fascists on the scene

Massive turnout considering they have 500k Facebook likes.

according to hope not hate they have 1500 members.

1450 of whom don't seem to do anything.

 

[toggle]

i don't really have a problem with people taking the piss out of them. i think mockery is a very important part of combating fascism - make them look absurd, you know. Celtic Britain First do it perfectly. But mockery on its own is not enough.

I'm still trying to work out exactly who is behind that. I have my suspicions.

 

[Ranbay]

They dun like another mosque invasion today, really good one an all, like 4 of them against some old muslim guy..... they got offended by the entrance signs for brothers and sisters and the massive cross on it.

 

[Treacle Toes]

They dun like another mosque invasion today, really good one an all, like 4 of them against some old muslim guy..... they got offended by the entrance signs for brothers and sisters and the massive cross on it.

WTAF!

Britain First 'battalion' invades mosque demanding removal of 'sexist' entrance signs

The “invasion” is one of many conducted by Britain First, which has been known to carry out “Christian patrols” in ethnically diverse areas and hand out Bibles to Muslims.

Given that many Muslims recognise Jesus as a prophet these twits are obviously not that bright.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...removal-of-sexist-entrance-signs-9607978.html

 

[treelover]

3 big guys against one old man, can't see how that will get 'respect' from anyone...

 

[Treacle Toes]

3 big guys against one old man, can't see how that will get 'respect' from anyone...

Interesting that they didn't 'invade' during evening prayer when the mosque was full...oh wait, they didn't do that because it would be disrespectful right?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

What frightens me is the potential for like-minded muslim extremists to retaliate by doing the same in churches. BF needs banning and imprisoning before things spiral out of control

 

[Humberto]

Given that many Muslims recognise Jesus as a prophet these twits are obviously not that bright.

Don't think that matters tbh.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Don't think that matters tbh.

Obviously not! Handing a Muslim a bible like it's the worst thing you could do is the point.

How many of these Christian Crusaders do you think actually go to church each sunday?

They are idiotic troublemakers. No more.

 

[Humberto]

Obviously not! Handing a Muslim a bible like it's the worst thing you could do is the point.

How many of these Christian Crusaders do you think actually go to church each sunday?

They are idiotic troublemakers. No more.

Its just that they can't even talk to others of different faiths without attacking. Sorry but thats the planet we live on. They are ALL meant to value peace as one of their core beliefs or so i've been led to believe.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Its just that they can't even talk to others of different faiths without attacking. Sorry but thats the planet we live on. They are ALL meant to value peace at their core or so i've been led to believe.

I hear ya but the issue here for me is that the motivation for talking to others is to attack, not that they are not capable of it. It's a shitty game they are playing.

 

[Dogsauce]

"No fear. No retreat. No surrender"

Yep, battling against the odds, taking the fight to a little old man, outnumbered one-to-five. Brave warriors of the Master Race.


Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. Section 5(1):
"(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he:
(a) uses threatening [or abusive] words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening [or abusive],
within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby."

 

[malatesta32]

they speak in terms of divisions and battalions. which shows how deluded they are. the worst thing is that their buffoonery is being reported on so much.

 

[Awesome Wells]

WTAF!





Given that many Muslims recognise Jesus as a prophet these twits are obviously not that bright.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...removal-of-sexist-entrance-signs-9607978.html

Bibles they no doubt haven't read.

I wonder if their 'uniforms' included mixed fabrics?

 

[Awesome Wells]

3 big guys against one old man, can't see how that will get 'respect' from anyone...

Nothing says equality like a couple of big burly men invading a mosque.

 

[sim667]

What frightens me is the potential for like-minded muslim extremists to retaliate by doing the same in churches. BF needs banning and imprisoning before things spiral out of control

Weren't there "Muslim patrols" already?

The whole fucking "our area" thing is pathetic. Its just a bunch of dopey caucasians with literally no sense of historical context of the country having a massive circle jerk egging each other to have a game of knock down ginger on any building thats slightly "muslamic" or anywhere where they might get a camera point at them.

What does worry me is there clever media game, they're making themselves look strong in numbers and support, when people are actually really just supporting the causes shown by mistreated animals etc.... Pre-existing support (even if it is fake) encourages others to follow suit. Thats dangerous.

Have they got a freepost address yet?

 

[Theisticle]

The Muslim patrol was at best 5 idiotic individuals. Britain First are actively trying to recruit army individuals for their street defence org, they've run "fight club" style self-defence classes. Their "Christian Patrols" involve driving around Tower Hamlets in an armoured vehicle and harassing individuals.

 

[butchersapron]

Bibles they no doubt haven't read.

I wonder if their 'uniforms' included mixed fabrics?

Second piece of expert biblical scholarship in two days. What do you think Acts 10:15 was about? In fact, what do you think the whole New Testament was about?

What do BF roadshows consist of btw? They're supposed to be doing one in Bristol this weekend. I gather it's just an old style meeting in venues rather than anything else?

 

[Theisticle]

I'm under the impression that it's at a venue that you need to call a specific BF phone number an hour or so beforehand to confirm the location.

"Several of the re-direction points have now been released and are available on our "events" section below.
These meetings will include speeches, a multimedia presentation, questions and answers and a buffet."

https://www.britainfirst.org/event/bristol-rally-national-tour-2014/

 

[butchersapron]

I'm under the impression that it's at a venue that you need to call a specific BF phone number an hour or so beforehand to confirm the location.

"Several of the re-direction points have now been released and are available on our "events" section below.
These meetings will include speeches, a multimedia presentation, questions and answers and a buffet."

https://www.britainfirst.org/event/bristol-rally-national-tour-2014/

Yeah, just looks like old school meetings chegwined/roadshowed up really:

 

[bolshiebhoy]

I keep checking the FB Bristol anti fash page to see if it's worth coming to a counter demo from Swindon on Sunday. Bet they cancel after I buy a train ticket :-(

 

[malatesta32]

even the fuckbugles on VNN and stormfront think its a 'diamond' jim dowson con.

 

[sim667]

The Muslim patrol was at best 5 idiotic individuals. Britain First are actively trying to recruit army individuals for their street defence org, they've run "fight club" style self-defence classes. Their "Christian Patrols" involve driving around Tower Hamlets in an armoured vehicle and harassing individuals.

Did you see the clip where they broke the car park entrance barrier by mistake

 

[Dogsauce]

There needs to be a parody group that follows them 'on patrol' called 'Britain Fist' which has a flesh-coloured landrover and a small squad of 'crack troops' in military-themed fetishwear. Don't think they'd get much of a welcome on Brick Lane either though.

 

[sim667]

There needs to be a parody group that follows them 'on patrol' called 'Britain Fist' which has a flesh-coloured landrover and a small squad of 'crack troops' in military-themed fetishwear. Don't think they'd get much of a welcome on Brick Lane either though.

?

 

[Geri]

I keep checking the FB Bristol anti fash page to see if it's worth coming to a counter demo from Swindon on Sunday. Bet they cancel after I buy a train ticket :-(

If they do you can visit the Harbourside Festival instead.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

WTAF!





Given that many Muslims recognise Jesus as a prophet these twits are obviously not that bright.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britain-first-battalion-invades-mosque-demanding-removal-of-sexist-entrance-signs-9607978.html

Maybe one idea is a little bit less attention from mass media on tiny extremist groups.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britain-first-founder-quits-over-3923810

Dowson quits, and turns off the funding, stunned and amazed that mosque invasions have attracted extremists and racists.

 

[bolshiebhoy]

After pressure from fellow 'evangelical chistians' for which read the heavy mob in Norn Iron where Jim lives.