Brazil votes in far right fascist Jair Bolsonaro

[Ax^]

Pretty straight forward libcom sentiments he's expressing?

who me? you are mistaken but your defending a shite posting troll so maybe you've just not be following the thread long enongh

 

[Ax^]

His politics is probably all over the place but he's basically a liberal who thinks that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was justified.

and you politics are about as coherant as the fella in your avvi

thats why i suggested it to you

 

[Magnus McGinty]

who me? you are mistaken but your defending a shite posting troll so maybe you've just not be following the thread long enongh

Bizarre that you don't even know who I was referring to.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

my post are irrelevant


please tell me again how people not voting against Bolsanaro would of helped in his defeat

ya fucknut

Well there go. Electoralism is a helluva drug.

 

[Ax^]

oddly forget rid of populist leaders its kind of effective

rather than not voting

 

[Ax^]

but i'm sure AA revolution is coming at some point soon if he leaves the house

 

[AmateurAgitator]

oddly forget rid of populist leaders its kind of effective

rather than not voting

As if all I believe in is not voting. Thats a complete misrepresentation, or you're just too much of an idiot to understand. I believe in building autonomous working class grass roots movements not handing over power to traitorous politicians like you do.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It's basically the Corbyn argument again but elsewhere. A libcom won't support a statist solution to capitalism. Yada yada.

 

[Ax^]

As if all I belive in is not voting. Thats a complete misrepresentation, or you're just too much of an idiot to understand.

its what you stated fella we covered this shite before

remember quote hunter s Thompson at me

 

[Magnus McGinty]

God this place is a dismal wreck.

 

[Pickman's model]

Pretty straight forward libcom sentiments he's expressing?

Sadly so

 

[Pickman's model]

God this place is a dismal wreck.

Not so bad now you're posting again tho. Just a bleak wreck

 

[AmateurAgitator]

its what you stated fella we covered this shite before

remember quote hunter s Thompson at me

You're a disingenuous twat who always deliberately misrepresents everything people post on here if they have different views to you. And you are posting way too much, taking up too much space on the thread as usual. Go and argue with someone else you contentious authoritarian prick.

 

[Ax^]

Bizarre that you don't even know who I was referring to.

my bad was jumping between threads and rowing on reddit with a trump supporter

sorry fella unless you do mean me

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Obviously not if you think that Fidel Castro is a heroic anti-capitalist revolutionary and not a privileged state capitalist oppressor.

I'm pretty dubious about the term 'state capitalist' tbh. If a state has nationalised industries and is no longer running those industries in order to produce a profit for investors, the term 'capitalist' doesn't really apply. The mechanics of capitalism as laid out by Marx, for instance, don't apply. Other forms of oppression and exploitation can occur, but they're not capitalist oppression and exploitation. I think that's playing fast and loose with definitions in a very unhelpful way. And it really, really doesn't help you to understand what Cuba is and was under Fidel Castro.

 

[Ax^]

You're a disingenuous twat who always misrepresents everything people post on here just because they have different views to you. And you are posting way too much, taking up too much space on the thread as usual. Go and argue with someone else yeou contentious prick.

dude i'm lost for words after days of you saying you hate the place and don't want to be here
and you only reason for reacting to this thread was people quoting your post

you arguing against people showing solidarity to some Brazilian posters on the boards who are celebrating the downfall of Bolsonaro
but of course you are the victimized party and we should all let you have your say..

withstanding you have the second high post count on this thread but we all just against your view point

fuck off and grow up

 

[two sheds]

always misrepresents everything people post on here

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I'm pretty dubious about the term 'state capitalist' tbh.

I really don't care

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I really don't care

Or indeed know anything.

 

[Ax^]

I really don't care

but you still keep stinking the thread up

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I'm pretty dubious about the term 'state capitalist' tbh. If a state has nationalised industries and is no longer running those industries in order to produce a profit for investors, the term 'capitalist' doesn't really apply. The mechanics of capitalism as laid out by Marx, for instance, don't apply. Other forms of oppression and exploitation can occur, but they're not capitalist oppression and exploitation. I think that's playing fast and loose with definitions in a very unhelpful way. And it really, really doesn't help you to understand what Cuba is and was under Fidel Castro.

You still have a class system with the state being the boss.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm pretty dubious about the term 'state capitalist' tbh. If a state has nationalised industries and is no longer running those industries in order to produce a profit for investors, the term 'capitalist' doesn't really apply. The mechanics of capitalism as laid out by Marx, for instance, don't apply. Other forms of oppression and exploitation can occur, but they're not capitalist oppression and exploitation. I think that's playing fast and loose with definitions in a very unhelpful way. And it really, really doesn't help you to understand what Cuba is and was under Fidel Castro.

So a profit's ok as long as it's not produced for investors. Grand

 

[AmateurAgitator]

but you still keep stinking the thread up

No thats what you've done, no doubt to try and hide my post about Lula on the previous page by insessantly posting childish, antagonising crap.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You still have a class system with the state being the boss.

Yes, I can go along with that. But you have a class system under feudalism as well, or a slave society. It's not peculiar to capitalism and the capitalist mode of production.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Forget all that stuff about autocracy being bad, the cigar man owns the hospital. Jesus.

 

[Ax^]

No thats what you've done, no doubt to try and hide my post about Lula.

of course its a conspiracy to hide your truths about lupa

that you waited till page 26 to make


oh us blindfolded fools

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Yes, I can go along with that. But you have a class system under feudalism as well, or a slave society. It's not peculiar to capitalism and the capitalist mode of production.

I'm just saying that AA is expressing pretty ordinary libcom positions and I'm surprised by the flak he's getting.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I'm just saying that AA is expressing pretty ordinary libcom positions and I'm surprised by the flak he's getting.

It's because he's been posting total bollocks on this thread ever since Sunday.

 

[Ax^]

I'm just saying that AA is expressing pretty ordinary libcom positions and I'm surprised by the flak he's getting.

start the thread from when the elections started see the worried Brazilian urbs worried about a bloody coup after blatant voter suppression
then the celebration of a very tight victory of Lupa
and then AA never end inputing without showing any solidarity with them

he is being an asshat

 

[AmateurAgitator]

It's because he's been posting total bollocks on this thread ever since Sunday.

Thats absolute horseshit