Minnie_the_Minx
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Oh, was reminded that the owners of both The Russell and The Railway was Madigans. The minute the person mentioned the name, I remembered
Brady's, Brixton (Railway Hotel): history, chat and plans
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oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
I wouldn't say they were rare either. I seem to remember Sunday licensing laws, whereby one couldn't drink between lunchtime and evening, were relaxed in the mid-90s. So-called '24-hour drinking' was 2005.
I used to live near Clapham Old Town and if the landlord knew you were safe, you were OK for massive after-hours beer sessions in a couple of pubs in walking distance from my house. This was mid-80s.
I remember my flatmate and her boyfriend having to more or less beg to be let out of The Bull's Head on Rectory Grove, pissed and exhausted, at about 3am.
This was about 1986. (The pub has changed hands several times so I hope I'm not incriminating anyone........).
Minnie_the_Minx
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I remember lock-ins in the George IV 'til the very early hours of the morning
Now, I'm so used to drinking in a late pub, I'd be a bit shocked at being chucked out of one at 11.00pm
Now, I'm so used to drinking in a late pub, I'd be a bit shocked at being chucked out of one at 11.00pm
story
Changing the facts
I would probably have been on the door,so you must have been really,really out of order.
There's two sides to every story....
Well certainly they were few and far between back then, but if you knew the right places drinking after hours was easy. So long as you were in with the guv'nor and didn't cause any trouble. And didn't brag about it to all and sundry. And plenty of coppers knew about it, course they did.
The Springfield Tavern had a good lock in. And that pub opposite John Ruskin Street, they did a great lock in.
lordnoise
Well-Known Member
"Few and far betweens" my memory of the situation too. One of the rituals involved was to turn the juke box off unless you were in some sort of cellar situation and had bunged the police as (allegedly) happened in Soho.
lordnoise
Well-Known Member
That names ringing bells with me. Madigans were a huge bailiffs firm around that time I wonder if theres a connection. The other name running around my brain is Henelley Inns or Taverns although they may have been the owners of The Canning before Wychwood. If I remember correctly the same company who took over from the Galloghys at the Railway also owned the little corner pub kind of opposite Ye Olde White Horse Inn (Jamm). Is that pub still going ?
I'd order up the historic deeds of the Railway from the land registry site only its 30 something quid.
Minnie_the_Minx
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Madigans were bailiffs but I don't know if they were connected to the pub owners. Hennellys owned the George Canning. I definitely remember that. Madigans I recognise from the George IV as well when Des Christie had the pub
Not sure about the pub opposite the Old White Horse but it was a right dive. I drank in there occasionally with a friend whose locals were both the Old White Horse and that one. Can't remember the name. Was it something royal sounding? Crown and Anchor? Crown and Cushion?
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Everyone was too skint in the 70s and 80s to take photos
I do have some photos but they are not on computer file. There definitely was a music scene connected with the mainly white squatters/ Short life of the time as Newbie says in earlier post.
I wouldn't say they were rare either. I seem to remember Sunday licensing laws, whereby one couldn't drink between lunchtime and evening, were relaxed in the mid-90s. So-called '24-hour drinking' was 2005.
I used to live near Clapham Old Town and if the landlord knew you were safe, you were OK for massive after-hours beer sessions in a couple of pubs in walking distance from my house. This was mid-80s.
I remember my flatmate and her boyfriend having to more or less beg to be let out of The Bull's Head on Rectory Grove, pissed and exhausted, at about 3am.
I remember the Sunday afternoon issue, and ending up in some basement bar off Oxford Street, which was then heavilty patronised by those carrying on from "The Church". So, we all had to pay a couple of quid to go into this bar, and as you went in and paid your entrance fee, they'd hand you a paper plate with a dried up spring roll or something, the point of which wasn't to actually eat, it was an excuse to claim that we were all actually "diners" and therefore it was legal for them to serve us all afternoon.
, with "drinks with our meal"!
On another note, I remember George IV being literally open round the clock from some point on thursday to sunday night. with a surprising number of "regulars" who seemed to be there all weekend....
Giles..
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
smacking the landlord
Was that when Des Christie had it?
Don't know. However, preserved for posterity http://www.amherst.co.uk/zFINALMinutes210406.pdf is the record of the council's licencing meeting around the time G4 got closed down.
Highlights include the bit on page 3 where the police, presumably having carried out extensive undercover operations, comment:
"On some occasions when promotional events were being held at the venue, the premises were open continuously from Thursday through to Sunday in contravention of the conditions of the current license. The same patrons were seen at the venue for the duration of the extended promotional events and it was suspected that patrons were taking illegal substances to keep them awake for this length of time.
They must have brought in Sherlock Holmes or some other top detective to figure that one out!
And a bit later, the woman who was then running the place must surely have struggled to keep a straight face when commenting:
Ms Stone advised that she was managed the premises from Thursday – Sunday and that she catered for the 18 - 35 age group. She was surprised to learn of the sale/use of illegal substances on the premises as this had never been brought to her attention and the police had not approached her regarding any concerns.
Giles..
Minnie_the_Minx
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No idea who that is then, as after Des, you had two other Irish guys (Tony and Paul), then you had another Irish guy (who ended up in the Sultan, but can't remember his name - Nigel possibly?) Oh, just thought, there was another couple, think they were Irish as well but can't remember their names (Frank was the husband I think). They had a barstaff with them as well who got married to a Thai girl.
eta: Oh, just seen the date - 2006. All those names above were well before that.
2006 I imagine, is when they used to have those ravey nights and you'd walk past on a Saturday/Sunday morning to see people out of their heads having partied all night
Minnie_the_Minx
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are they sure it was even the George IV? They're referring to Water Works Lane. Idiots! Maybe it's a new road only the council know about?
Minnie_the_Minx
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There's a separate thread about it
Aquamarine
Well-Known Member
For info. email received from the council. It is currently being marketed on behalf of the Council by Lambert Smith Hampton. Any future use outside its current planning consent would require an application for change of use as would any significant alterations to the structure and external areas. There would be opportunity for public comment through the planning process.
Just posted an article about Twisted at Brady's (country/techno night), including some old flyers:
http://history-is-made-at-night.blogspot.com/2011/06/twisted.html
http://history-is-made-at-night.blogspot.com/2011/06/twisted.html
editor
hiraethified
Great piece!
I can see Tim Windmill all over the piece, but is Hack-saw the Hacker from Morton Valence?
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
It was indeed; he was our resident act and that was Johnny from band of Holy Joy on the decks. Thanks so much for posting that Neil New-X.
We had so much fun doing that. Linerider of this parish was our greeter! The best fun was almost thinking up stupid names like PharmaCountry, the Milliion Gram Sessions and renaming the venue Bradys Saloon.
Malicha Davis
New Member
Hello im a student currently doing a project on the redevelopment of the railway hotel brady's. I am at a loss at finding information about it from when it was renamed to Brady's. ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE HELPFUL!
thank you
thank you
editor
hiraethified
There was another place called Brady's on Brixton Road, so it's possible that the landlord took the name with him.Hello im a student currently doing a project on the redevelopment of the railway hotel brady's. I am at a loss at finding information about it from when it was renamed to Brady's. ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE HELPFUL!
thank you
Malicha Davis
New Member
thank you, i will look into it
editor
hiraethified
It's all over. The campaigning ABCBrixton site has also vanished off the web, and the domain space riddled with viruses.
http://www.urban75.org/blog/so-its-goodbye-to-bradys-one-of-brixtons-legendary-boozers/
http://www.urban75.org/blog/so-its-goodbye-to-bradys-one-of-brixtons-legendary-boozers/
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Sad news. Now what fine food eaterie will end up there I wonder
