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miss minnie said:
i've cried each of the six times i've seen this film...

"The final images are some of the most powerful seen in science fiction films, both sad and optimistic : the forest tended by the remaining robot, with a battered watering can, all alone."

wwaaaahhhhh.... blub blub.....

:( :(

I've cried each time I've watched it too - it certainly pushes all the right buttons :)
 
Yesterday I slated a whole raft of conspiracy theories with loose use of epithets like 'bonkers' 'mad' etc.

If this in any way offends urb or anyone else I apologise -- I certainly didn't intend to attack as such any mental troubles anyone may have experienced. I don't even want to suggest that everyone who subscribes to conspiracy theories is themselves loopy --- Dr Jazz for eg is very rational and articulate (just comes out with a bunch of cobblers a lot of the time :D )

I was really attacking the inherent irrationality of so many of the theories themselves and the fact that to beleive them, you have to suspend a whole lot of contradictory evidence and be prepared to be very selective in what you accept or not.

It is surely true that most conspiracy theorists are very reluctant indeed to condemn or question any other conpiracy theory (except possibly when it conflicts directly with their own) -- this solidarity of acceptance of all theories accross the board however implausible or however directly contradicted by more credible evidence, weakens their credibility as 'historians' I feel.

As someone :confused: said, there's no point in being so 'open minded' that all your common sense falls out. A few more admissions by conspiracy merchants that some if not most theories floating about are ridiculous and much less likely to be true than less selective, more sensible, more facts-consistent versions, might go a little further to stop so many of us non-conspiracists think that 'open minded' to the conspiracy theorist means being prepared to swallow any passing 'anti establishment' pipedream passing by on the net.

As I said before, that version of being 'anti-establishment' discredits some really good investigative work by proper scientists and historians, oftenm themselves of an anti-establishment bent, who do all the necessary boring, tedious, fact checking and evidence using techniques of arriving at proof ...

Also, conspiracy theorists should show a greater relectance to condemn those who don't subscribe to their theeory as stooges of the establishment, evangelists for the scientific establishment, or as being brainwashed by the media. Doesn't up the persausiveness levels for you, that all too common tactic.

A last word to urb --- if the theories you believe are (as you seem to be saying) based on voices you hear, a lot depends surely on how much you want other people to concur with your reality. If you don't care whether others believe you or not, fair enough. But if you want to persuade others that there's something in any of the threories that have been linked to in this thread, then I hate to say it but you're going to have to be a good deal more persuasive than to say that I heard something or someone telling me so.

Can you not see that so many of those theories look absolutely ridiculous to the rationalist majority?

And for very good reason.
 
William of Walworth said:
Can you not see that so many of those theories look absolutely ridiculous to the rationalist majority?

Yes I can see this William :)

I am way out of line with what I posted yesterday. I had a bad day.
 
Hope you're havoing a better one now :)

I'm a little ahem direct :eek: in my post above, but I'm just trying to outline why so many people struggle to be able to take many of these theories all that seriously ....
 
I'm feeling much better thank you, William :)

This message board has always been good for a quick dose of reality.

Back to work.....
 
Re. "hearing voices" - probably every single human being hears voices - in that everyone has dreams where they hear and see things in their head that are not really there. Many people put value to some of the things they see - sometimes people are convinvec that they have been given a wwarning about a forthcoming event ("beware the ides of march") or maybe they seem to be getting some advice from someone they know or have known in the past.

Noone really understands why most people only dream while they are asleep. Obviously the same process can occur for some people while they are awake, and it must be very offputting since you can't simply 'wake up' and stop the "dream".

I don't know what it feels like to have this happen to me, so you have my sympathies and please tell me if the above theory is a load of rubbish.
 
I ain't attention seeking, I'd post here more often if I was.

I don't hear pleasant voices... mostly enraged and spiteful voices. It is a horrible experience. I know that they are just my imagination.
 
urb said:
I know that they are just my imagination.

Although (from my fairly uninformed perspective) the idea that the 'content' of the voices may give clues as to the underlying cause seems an interesting one and worth pursuing.
 
I'm not sure how the two suns thing works; Isit really a sun, was it always there? How do they keep the second one hidden if it isn't purely a natural phenoma. Clearly you can't see it all the time only at certain times and certain places you can see it.
It scares the shit out of me you can joke about it now but just wait... :eek:

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It's crappy photo's using crappy equipment, nothing more.

As I said to Urb earlier, there is absolutely nothing we could do about it if it was true so there's no point in worrying.
 
I remember once serving some chap who was talking about how Israel had stolen all the electricity from the world and that they were holding us to ransom, that if we didn't support Zionism, that Israel would cut off the entire worlds supply of power, except their own. This guy had a perfectly straight face and didn't seem too potty. Wonder if it's true.
 
frogwoman said:
thats dangerous bollocks.

Sadly, he's not the only one to believe it.
I want to know how anyone could steal electricity and store it all in one Country. In little boxes? Maidnessss.
 
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