BNP membership list has been put online.

[belboid]

an analysis of what 'class' SWP members are, using (I guess the same criteria as they did in the post linked to above)

I'd guess at 30% students, 10% unemployed, 50% public service (inc. teachers & lecturers - 20%), 5% 'professionals', 5% old fashioned blue collar. Hmm, swhould probably be a few shop workers in there too, not many tho.

 

[chilango]

2. Where would you get the SWP membership list?

At one point this was more a less an online membership list.


...been cropped since it listed all 1400 odd and is probably out of date now.

 

[Nigel]

You Watching Me Watching Me Watching You!!!

I have'nt read through the whole of this thread, so I apologise in advance if ths has already been brought up.
Just received a Bl ogg junk mail from Th u rr o ck Pa tr iot s. An article that they claim to have sent this to people on U A F list.
Anyone know anything about this?

 

[emanymton]

The SWP have interpreted this as absolute proof that they are middle class

And I thought marxists didn't really like the term middle class, shows what I know

 

[teuchter]

I have'nt read through the whole of this thread, so I apologise in advance if ths has already been brought up.
Just received a Bl ogg junk mail from Th u rr o ck Pa tr iot s. An article that they claim to have sent this to people on U A F list.
Anyone know anything about this?

WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING NEIGHBOURS WOULD YOU MOST DISLIKE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO?


BNP Activists
100 (47%)

Communist Activists
45 (21%)

Union Activists
23 (11%)

African Activists
33 (15%)

Muslim Activists
74 (35%)

Tory Activists
27 (12%)

Labour Activists
35 (16%)

Liberal Activists
25 (11%)

Neo Nazi Activists
57 (27%)

Animal Rights Activists
19 (9%)

Religious Activists
32 (15%)



^They have this vote on their home page. I'm assuming the votes aren't really going the way they hoped.

http: //thurrockpatriots.blogspot.com/

 

[audiotech]

Nigel, apparently the list was first posted on the fascist VNN forum. Includes MP's, Euro MP's and some trade union leaders. Looks as though it might be linked to the usual suspects, who have been collecting this info, including a vast collection of images, for some time now?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What's an African activist?

 

[audiotech]

I've heard a BNP loon is to appear in the radio 4 programme The Moral Maze tonight at 8pm.

With Melanie Phillips and Keenan Malik too. Should be interesting.

Should a person's political views ever disqualify them from doing a job?

 

[Melinda]

He's on now!

The BNP arent racist!

 

[Melinda]

He's losing it BIG TIME!

Melanie Philips is kicking his arse.

They might have been better served by having a spokesman with a slightly longer fuse.

 

[teuchter]

I've heard a BNP loon is to appear in the radio 4 programme The Moral Maze tonight at 8pm.

With Melanie Phillips and Keenan Malik too. Should be interesting.

Should a person's political views ever disqualify them from doing a job?

I'm going to have to listen to this later on iplayer.

 

[Zachor]

He's losing it BIG TIME!

Melanie Philips is kicking his arse.

They might have been better served by having a spokesman with a slightly longer fuse.

the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable.

 

[Melinda]

Alright you Were/ Are you listening?

She reeled him in and he exploded!

 

[newbie]

tbh I thought he had the better of her. she's loathsome every week and it's about time someone took her on

 

[audiotech]

Barnes style of argument is to not answer the question put and to shout people down. As Portillo remarked to Phillips, 'Barnes didn't let the ball into the back of the net', so on that criteria he didn't lose it, but he also didn't get 'the better of Phillips' either.

 

[Melinda]

Barnes style of argument is to not answer the question put and to shout people down. As Portillo remarked to Phillips, 'Barnes didn't let the ball into the back of the net', so on that criteria he didn't lose it, but he also didn't get 'the better of Phillips' either.

I had raised eyebrows when Portillo said that, I disagreed with his analysis.

Barnes lost the argument and damaged his messages by dint of his inability to keep his temper.

He was shouting and ranting, digressing and taking pent-up sideswipes at all comers.


If the BNP want to sound rational and mainstream, having your spokesman going apeshit and spraying venom everywhere probably wasnt the way to go.

Had he been calmer, had a keener, more forensic mind he could have taken Melanie apart. Instead he behaved like a ranting fash. Funny that.

 

[Zachor]

Alright you Were/ Are you listening?

She reeled him in and he exploded!

I listened to most of it but had to go do laundry. At first he seemed to be reasonable but soon degenerated into ranting fash.

Probably one of the few times I've said 'Go Mel' to Mad Mel

 

[Gingerman]

I listened to most of it but had to go do laundry. At first he seemed to be reasonable but soon degenerated into ranting fash.

Probably one of the few times I've said 'Go Mel' to Mad Mel

Go and have a wash ;-)

 

[Zachor]

Go and have a wash ;-)

I did.

 

[quimcunx]

Had he been calmer, had a keener, more forensic mind he could have taken Melanie apart. Instead he behaved like a ranting fash. Funny that.

Surely if he had that he'd be a lot less likely to be a fash...?

 

[Louis MacNeice]

I had raised eyebrows when Portillo said that, I disagreed with his analysis.

Barnes lost the argument and damaged his messages by dint of his inability to keep his temper.

He was shouting and ranting, digressing and taking pent-up sideswipes at all comers.


If the BNP want to sound rational and mainstream, having your spokesman going apeshit and spraying venom everywhere probably wasnt the way to go.

Had he been calmer, had a keener, more forensic mind he could have taken Melanie apart. Instead he behaved like a ranting fash. Funny that.

Surely the BNP don't want to do this if it means sounding like one of the 'big three'.

Louis MacNeice

 

[newbie]

Surely the BNP don't want to do this if it means sounding like one of the 'big three'.

Louis MacNeice

quite so

I think he'll be satisfied that he made his case reasonably clearly, and made it apparent that Phillips was more intent on shutting him up than debating his points. His style wouldn't appeal to the standard R4 audience, but his message was aimed at (what he sees as) the beleaguered & ignored group he wants to represent, and his tone could easily have struck a chord. It's people outside the smug, self-satisfied Radio 4 core audience he was talking to.

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, which is why the people saying they're "not a proper political party"(the UAF and Searchlight, Labour etc) and that this needs to be highlighted to counter the threat are mssing the point by some distance.

 

[JimPage]

2 Results from Yesterday from Bridlington

Bridlington TC, North
Ind 369
LD 275
BNP 198 (20.5%)
SDP 126

Turnout 9.9%


Bridlington TC, Old Town
SDP 183/172
LD 147
BNP 143/114 (23.9%)
Ind 125

Turnout 7%


Yes, Turnouts of 9.9% and 7% for elections

 

[audiotech]

Low turnout and they still lost.

Here's another.

Birchills Leamore ward by-election(Walsall) Thursday 27th november

Declaration of Result of Poll - 27 November 2008

Aftab Kamran The Conservative Party 764 Elected
Booker Paul Green Party 34
Cockayne Christine Liberal Democrats 72
Davies Alan George Democratic Labour Party 69
Hazell Elizabeth UK Independence Party 52
Moore Malcolm William British National Party 90 (5.2%)
Worrall Richard Vernon The Labour Party Candidate 661

 

[ddraig]

one show bbc 1 right now!

 

[ddraig]

cable st
billy brag
collins

about econ crisis making more facists

now griffin

 

[Melinda]

That segment was preposterous bollocks.

 

[treelover]

They have just discussed the Far Right on the One Show, which is an incredibly popular programme, interview with a 90 year old, Reene Housman? about Cable St and her part in it, the NF in the 70's, a bit with Mathew Collins and abrief segment with Griffin. The general theme seemed to be Britain doesn't 'do fascism' (bit like MC5)

 

[treelover]

That segment was preposterous bollocks.

In what way?