The Jungle Book is far from the only one or even considered the worst offender:
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That was precisely my point about South Pacific!
I know,,. I always tend to use a sledge hammer to make the same point as you do with a surgeon's knife. Its cos I'm a typical reformist...
disney bought them in 2006. But their films were still produced with the Pixar team. really shouldn't be classed as "disney films".
I also don't class the Pixar films as Disney films. If you count Pixar films as Disney, then you may just as well count Touchstone or Buena Vista, which were Disney production and distribution companies that made live action films for an adult audience, like Con Air and Pretty Woman. Pixar helped Disney with their on computer animated films but this didn't go the other way. Creatively Pixar always stayed independent from Disney.
Not Disney, that one was by United Artists and that's the title of the book and not the movie, which was called The Secret of NIMH (and Mrs Frisby was renamed Mrs Brisby)
Made by ex disney people though, and feels like disney to watch imo, so I'm counting it as in. More in than pixar films anyway.
Yeah, I take your points. Haven't watched any of the old school animations (in full) since childhood, tbh, as I can't stomach them. The racism makes me wince and cringe. Not seen The Lion King as I was suspicious of it from the offThe Jungle Book is far from the only one or even considered the worst offender.
Six Disney Classics Tagged For Racist Imagery On Disney+ Including ‘Peter Pan’, ‘The Jungle Book’ & ‘The Aristocats’
Racist imagery and cultural stereotypes in six Disney animated classics including Peter Pan, The Jungle Book, Lady and the Tramp, The Aristocats, Dumbo and Swiss Family Robinson are being flagged on the Disney+ streaming site with warnings and detailed explanations of the “negative depictions”...
I put Dumbo at the top of my list, which arguably features a scene of worse racial stereotyping than anything in The Jungle Book. But as a little gay kid, Disney movies were all I got to see at the cinema and I related to Dumbo as a "queer" character, who was abused and made fun of for being different and who comes into his own by the end. The racial coding of the crows (who are sympathetic characters and who help Dumbo to be ok with himself, but who are basically a nasty racist pun) went over my head.
I'm into classic movies and even more questionable vintage exploitation films and something to content with is that 20th century art and entertainment can be problematic. These films will share outdated and/or offensive views on race, LGBT+ values, women and other civil right issues when judged from a 21st century perspective. It's necessary to acknowledge racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc in these films but within reason, everyone has to decide for themselves what they'll refuse to watch or what they'll "cancel". The Jungle Book can be read as racially coded, the villains of The Lion King and The Little Mermaid can be read as stereotypically queer and the old Disney princess movies are plainly sexist. I don't endorse the dodgy representations in those films, I regard them educational in regard to historical representation of oppressed groups and minorities in popular culture. I also believe there is a difference between films like The Jungle Book, where the subtext lends itself to interpretation and films which are outright racist, like Song of the South, which Disney have now locked in a vault never to be released again.
Good podcast on racism in Disney movies and classic Hollywood in general here:
Song of the South — New Episodes & Show Notes — You Must Remember This
That's just silly.
Not read them, but probably
Donald Bluth, who left a minor position as an animator at Disney to set himself up as a writer, director and CEO of a company in direct competition to Disney was not Disney. You can count that in as much as you like and you still will be wrong. Bluth regarded himself as very different to Disney.
The Jungle Book is far from the only one or even considered the worst offender:
Six Disney Classics Tagged For Racist Imagery On Disney+ Including ‘Peter Pan’, ‘The Jungle Book’ & ‘The Aristocats’
Racist imagery and cultural stereotypes in six Disney animated classics including Peter Pan, The Jungle Book, Lady and the Tramp, The Aristocats, Dumbo and Swiss Family Robinson are being flagged on the Disney+ streaming site with warnings and detailed explanations of the “negative depictions”...
I put Dumbo at the top of my list, which arguably features a scene of worse racial stereotyping than anything in The Jungle Book. But as a little gay kid, Disney movies were all I got to see at the cinema and I related to Dumbo as a "queer" character, who got abused for being different and who comes into his own by the end. The racial coding of the crows, who are sympathetic characters and who help Dumbo to realise his potential but who are a representation of a racist pun, went over my head.
I'm into classic movies and even more questionably, into vintage exploitation films. Something to come to terms with (or not) is that 20th century art and entertainment can be problematic. These films will share outdated and/or offensive views on race, LGBT+ values, women and other civil right issues when judged from a 21st century perspective. It's necessary to acknowledge racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc in those films but within reason, everyone has to decide for themselves what they'll watch or what they'll "cancel". The Jungle Book can be read as racially coded, the villain of The Lion King can be read as stereotypically gay and the old Disney princess movies are plainly sexist. I don't endorse the dodgy representations in those films, I regard them educational in regard to historical representation of oppressed groups and minorities in popular culture. I also believe there is a difference between films like The Jungle Book, where the subtext lends itself to interpretation and films which are outright racist, like Song of the South, which Disney have now locked in a vault never to be released again.
Good podcast on racism in Disney movies and classic Hollywood in general here:
Song of the South — New Episodes & Show Notes — You Must Remember This
Not read them, but probably
Marion’s not seen it but thinks it’s racist, so it must be racist. So you must be a racist for liking it. Obvs.
bluth and ten other ex disney people.
Who’s Marion
If you want to be sensitive about it, Jeremy Irons plays Scar pretty much as a a gay stereotype and implying that villains are gay or effeminate is an old trope.
