BBC - Owen Jones

[articul8]

Let's just say I'm not in the approved list for local cllrs. Thank f***

 

[butchersapron]

A rebel, like grit. A rebel within the labour party.

 

[ViolentPanda]

A rebel, like grit. A rebel within the labour party.

Inside the tent pissing out.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

grit in the oyster - future pearl (necklace)

 

[Sue]

Inside the tent pissing out.

Changing it from within, surely..?

 

[articul8]

He won't normally get paid for most of his tv appearances

You are joking? I know people get paid for radio punditry, so surely TV pays more? Sky news etc?

 

[articul8]

A rebel within the labour party.

For now

 

[butchersapron]

For now

Oh God. Now a martyr too.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Changing it from within, surely..?

That's what he tells us.
I see him more as standing at the tent opening, spraying out on anyone who isn't in the tent with him. Hosing us all with his various takes on "you have to vote Labour to get the Tories out" piss.

 

[ViolentPanda]

For now

Absolutely!
Soon you won't be a rebel within the Labour Party at all.

You'll be just another Labour Party sheep, hoping to trade abject compliance with doctrine for advancement up the greasy pole.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Oh God. Now a martyr too.

I'm sure a suitable martyrdom can be arranged.

 

[articul8]

nah, not happening. My patience is wearing thin already. I don't do any "Labour party activism" per se. My membership is in no way limiting my extra-party activism.

 

[butchersapron]

Everyone esle should join and vote labour but that's not good enough for you.

 

[articul8]

People should judge for themselves whether its worth taking the anti-austerity argument into the only party capable of mounting an alternative to the Con/LDs at the next election....

 

[butchersapron]

How nice of you to grant that freedom. Meanwhile carry on as normal - the labour party is good enough for you lot but not for me. That's why i joined and urge you to vote for them. Do you have any idea how incoherent you are?

 

[articul8]

It's perfectly clear, in the absence of any credible alternative, to attempt to influence the Labour party but not by organising a clear a distinct pole of attraction within it which is clearly distinct from the bulk of the party where class politics have been evacuated.

 

[butchersapron]

It's perfectly clear, in the absence of any credible alternative, to attempt to influence the Labour party but not by organising a clear a distinct pole of attraction within it which is clearly distinct from the bulk of the party where class politics have been evacuated.

Yeah, crystal.

 

[Delroy Booth]

You'll be just another Labour Party sheep

Fuck teh system!!!!

 

[butchersapron]

Just join del. You know where you're heading, save yourself some time.

 

[Delroy Booth]

Just join del. You know where you're heading, save yourself some time.

nah I'm deep in the process of entryism within SPEW, gonna win 'em round to democratic socialism and get owen jones to be leader, trust

 

[butchersapron]

luckily, articul8 has already beaten out your path for you

 

[articul8]

Not just me either, that very public sociologist fella too. Bet there's a few more too...

 

[butchersapron]

The very earth moves beneath our feet.

 

[ViolentPanda]

How nice of you to grant that freedom. Meanwhile carry on as normal - the labour party is good enough for you lot but not for me. That's why i joined and urge you to vote for them. Do you have any idea how incoherent you are?

I think you're missing the point because you're being too kind and understanding.
It's now becoming clear that articul8 has imperial ambitions.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Fuck teh system!!!!

No, not sheeple, sheep.

 

[articul8]

 

[butchersapron]

I think you're missing the point because you're being too kind and understanding.
It's now becoming clear that articul8 has imperial ambitions.

Celestial surely?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Celestial surely?

You think? Hmm, thinking about it, you're probably right. Why rule on earth when you can rule in heaven?

 

[love detective]

It's perfectly clear, in the absence of any credible alternative, to attempt to influence the Labour party but not by organising a clear a distinct pole of attraction within it which is clearly distinct from the bulk of the party where class politics have been evacuated.

factor 36 - per spinoza

 

[nino_savatte]

Just listened to this. He did a really good job on it.

He actually did a pretty good job on Newsnight last night, even though he was in one of those Bruce Lee versus 12 baddies situations.