BBC - Owen Jones

[Nigel Irritable]

Not all of them are state funded.

True, but most are, including the one he went to.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

'It’s the first time something like this has happened to me: an apparent member of the mythical squeezed middle, at least not your average protester, knowing all about us and pronouncing on our behalf. Maybe I was being arrogant, but I couldn’t help thinking that she wouldn’t immediately have thought of Philip Green if it wasn’t for UK Uncut. The experience was a timely indication, I thought, that UK Uncut is gaining significant traction."

The thing is on the visibility and outing of tax dodgers like Green she is right, Uk uncut seized the moment, WILOTL didn't....

Yep, UK Uncut are generally OK.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Excuse my ignorance, but who are WILOTL?

 

[goldenecitrone]

He's gay.

Fucking sexuality traitor, too.

 

[ayatollah]

eh, his whole book was about the repudation of the term 'Chavs' and deconstructing its use in the media, etc......

You are quite right treelover, and when I said Owen Jones seemed to have nicked a lot of his (perfectly OK) stuff in his book "Chavs etc" from material on the IWCA website this was actually repeating an earlier observation I recalled a member of the IWCA had made on some other thread.... bemoaning the lack of credit from Jones for this suspiciously similar series of positions. Very sensitive these IWCA chaps. (Even those of us who don't go along with your politics aren't ALWAYS having a snipe lads).

And I still maintain that for someone cited by the media as the most influential Leftie of current times, young Owen Jones has a remarkably sparse political CV.

 

[danny la rouge]

Excuse my ignorance, but who are WILOTL?

TV panel show. Has Lee Mack.

 

[ViolentPanda]

What are they? We don't have them here (so he didn't attend one in Falkirk).

Which would make shagging Laurie Penny even more horrifying!

 

[danny la rouge]

 

[nino_savatte]

Penny is supposedly a lesbian. So there ya go.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Answered the wrong post!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Penny is supposedly a lesbian. So there ya go.

They're each others' beards?

 

[nino_savatte]

They're each others' beards?

Now there's a thought...

 

[danny la rouge]

Answered the wrong post!

Good. I thought there was something I really wasn't understanding about 6th form colleges!

 

[danny la rouge]

They're each others' beards?

Reverse beards, as it were, you mean?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Reverse beards, as it were, you mean?

Would a reverse beard be a mullet?

 

[Stardark]

Jesus Christ, he's on The Moral Maze...

 

[danny la rouge]

Would a reverse beard be a mullet?

I no longer know. This is more confusing than Lewis.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Reverse beards, as it were, you mean?

Yep.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Would a reverse beard be a mullet?

No, it's be a really odd looking combover style.

 

[danny la rouge]

No, it's be a really odd looking combover style.

Yey. Is it talk like a pirate day?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Jesus Christ, he's on The Moral Maze...

confusing if Claire Fox is on as well as they sound identical.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yey. Is it talk like a pirate day?

Ah-har, me hearty!!

 

[The39thStep]

Ridiculous, he was involved in the LRC, helped organised John McDonells's abortive leadership bid and rally, wrote Chavs which is more successful and influential than most left wing people could hope for, and certainly more than former leftists like Zabo....

how on earth has Chavs been influential?

 

[treelover]

Excuse my ignorance, but who are WILOTL?

Sorry, 'what is left of the left'

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

how on earth has Chavs been influential?

treelover does not answer he asks

 

[ViolentPanda]

how on earth has Chavs been influential?

It's influenced some of its middle-class readers to feel a bit of a frisson of guilt about their class prejudices?

 

[killer b]

To be fair, he isn't an old Etonian or anything; just went to a seemingly regular 6th form college.

does it matter that his privilege started a little later than some?

 

[shagnasty]

It usually happens that no mater who the person is we can never find full agreement,but he does say things we can agree on

 

[temper_tantrum]

does it matter that his privilege started a little later than some?

So as soon as you acquire some 'privilege' then you become persona non grata, is that how it works?

 

[killer b]

not at all. i'd just like to see less oxbridge types on the telly.