Basic DIY questions?

[StoneRoad]

It's Ikea, they don't use beading!

It's glued together so breaking the glass is the only way, I think. I just didn't expect the hammer to bounce off it. Will have another go when the rain stops.

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It might be easier to actually cut the glass out, otherwise you could end up with jagged & very sharp edges ?

 

[Boudicca]

It might be easier to actually cut the glass out, otherwise you could end up with jagged & very sharp edges ?

Hum, but what with?

The panes of glass are loose and held in only by the grooves in the wood. They should come cleanly out once broken.

 

[StoneRoad]

Hum, but what with?

The panes of glass are loose and held in only by the grooves in the wood. They should come cleanly out once broken.

Ah, my tool kit includes glass & tile cutters ...

Being "safety" glass should reduce the sharp edges, but can I suggest working on a heavy duty dust sheet, just in case ...

 

[spitfire]

Hello ! Does anyone know of a supplier of small, visor-type cooker extractors? Our cooker is sitting within a chimney and we don't have much depth to play with, probably around 30cm. Most visors appear to be 45cm plus deep.

(Used to have a Rayburn, had to have it taken out and there's nowhere else in the kitchen for a cooker)

This one: Smeg KSET56LXE2_SS Metal Telescopic Cooker hood (W)56.6cm - Stainless Steel | DIY at B&Q

Cheaper: Smeg Cucina 60cm Telescopic Canopy Cooker Hood - Stainless Steel KSET61E2 | Appliances Direct

 

[Elpenor]

I’ve just fitted a SMEG hood that I’m sure was less than that. We got it free so not sure on price though.

How easy are they to fit btw? I don’t have a cooker hood and it slightly annoys me

 

[Epona]

How easy are they to fit btw? I don’t have a cooker hood and it slightly annoys me

I don't know but I assume (on the basis of not having one either), that if you've never had one fitted then you'd need it put through an exterior wall so that what it is extracting ends up outside - if you've not had one, that opening may not exist and it would be a job for a professional with the appropriate tools and knowhow, or at least I assume so?
I need one for my cooker and an extractor fan in the bathroom, ideally, but cannot afford.

 

[Elpenor]

I don't know but I assume (on the basis of not having one either), that if you've never had one fitted then you'd need it put through an exterior wall so that what it is extracting ends up outside - if you've not had one, that opening may not exist and it would be a job for a professional with the appropriate tools and knowhow, or at least I assume so?
I need one for my cooker and an extractor fan in the bathroom, ideally, but cannot afford.

It would probably need to be a recirculating extractor I think as I live in a terrace, that’s what I had in a previous house and is the go to when there’s no easily available exterior wall. I was hoping it could be attached to the (internal) kitchen wall, but wasn’t sure if it was simply plugged in to a wall socket or not.

For now I just cook with the kitchen window and back door open, which in practice in the winter means I cook quick simple meals during my lunchbreak and reheat in the evening

 

[Epona]

It would probably need to be a recirculating extractor I think as I live in a terrace, that’s what I had in a previous house and is the go to when there’s no easily available exterior wall. I was hoping it could be attached to the (internal) kitchen wall, but wasn’t sure if it was simply plugged in to a wall socket or not.

For now I just cook with the kitchen window and back door open, which in practice in the winter means I cook quick simple meals during my lunchbreak and reheat in the evening

Sounds a bit like overkill, I'd just get a carbon monoxide alarm if you have a gas oven/hob, and crack the window open for half an hour after you have finished cooking to air the room and combat moisture/condensation.
(Until you get an extractor fan/hood - although carbon monoxide alarm is never a bad idea anyway if you use gas or other fuels)

 

[spitfire]

How easy are they to fit btw? I don’t have a cooker hood and it slightly annoys me

Easy enough, they supply a paper template so you can line it up with the cabinet. We already had a cabinet in place so that helped.

Ours doesn't vent to outside though, just into the cabinet, it does have a filter but not perfect.

It was a bit fiddly in places but nothing horrific.

 

[spitfire]

It would probably need to be a recirculating extractor I think as I live in a terrace, that’s what I had in a previous house and is the go to when there’s no easily available exterior wall. I was hoping it could be attached to the (internal) kitchen wall, but wasn’t sure if it was simply plugged in to a wall socket or not.

For now I just cook with the kitchen window and back door open, which in practice in the winter means I cook quick simple meals during my lunchbreak and reheat in the evening

Yes just regular socket.

 

[Elpenor]

Easy enough, they supply a paper template so you can line it up with the cabinet. We already had a cabinet in place so that helped.

Ours doesn't vent to outside though, just into the cabinet, it does have a filter but not perfect.

It was a bit fiddly in places but nothing horrific.

Cheers; so basically a question of drilling in the right places and then attaching to the wall? I will have a look at b&q. Hopefully a one person job, albeit fiddly

 

[spitfire]

Cheers; so basically a question of drilling in the right places and then attaching to the wall? I will have a look at b&q. Hopefully a one person job, albeit fiddly

4 screws (into wood for me), 2 each side to fit the rails, then the hood slides onto the rails.

 

[spitfire]

There is a little more to it than that, some screws to fit to hold it all together and the instructions are a bit...Italian.

I don't know about other hoods though, only ever fitted this one.

 

[Elpenor]

There is a little more to it than that, some screws to fit to hold it all together and the instructions are a bit...Italian.

I don't know about other hoods though, only ever fitted this one.

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Okaydoke, thanks the diagram helps. I don’t have a wall mounted cabinet for it to go into, just a space, so I’d have to figure that bit out first.

It’s probably worth doing as the chance of fitting a new kitchen in the next 10 years are virtually zero.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

You can hire a drill and the circular diamond hole cutter for extractors. I would advise drilling a pilot hole all the way through the wall and then drilling both sides inwards towards the cavity so it doesn’t fuck the brick work up. You’ll also need to get some leccy to it. Which is probably a bigger ballache than the extraction hole.

 

[izz]

Okaydoke, thanks the diagram helps. I don’t have a wall mounted cabinet for it to go into, just a space, so I’d have to figure that bit out first.

It’s probably worth doing as the chance of fitting a new kitchen in the next 10 years are virtually zero.

Would a shelf work ?

 

[spitfire]

Okaydoke, thanks the diagram helps. I don’t have a wall mounted cabinet for it to go into, just a space, so I’d have to figure that bit out first.

It’s probably worth doing as the chance of fitting a new kitchen in the next 10 years are virtually zero.

https://www.manua.ls/smeg/kset56lxe2/manual?p=4

 

[Boudicca]

If you can take the doors off, I'd do that, and lie them flat on the ground. Have the glass itself actually resting directly on something. Then give it a whack directly, probably with a towel or something on top of and under the glass. Then all of the force of the hammer is transferred to the glass and not to the frames.

Still not breaking.

I may have to go to plan B. I have some rattan/cane which I was going to staple in once the glass was gone. I'm now going to see whether I could glue it to the front of the glass.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Still not breaking.

Therefore it's your bomb shelter for when thermonuclear war breaks out.

 

[teuchter]

Still not breaking.

Hit it harder.

 

[Boudicca]

Hit it harder.

'Gets sledgehammer out of the shed...'

 

[Boudicca]

'And safety goggles'

 

[spitfire]

'And safety goggles'

Use something pointy and sharp like a nail. Try hitting that with a hammer in the corner rather than bang in the middle.

 

[teuchter]

And it's important the glass is actually sitting directly onto something rather than the frame taking any of the weight.

 

[Boudicca]

And it's important the glass is actually sitting directly onto something rather than the frame taking any of the weight.

I listened, I did this, I'm hitting it pretty hard, but I'm not keen on hitting it much harder as the glass will go everywhere.

 

[teuchter]

That's why I'd do it with an old towel or similar on top, to stop the glass going anywhere.

 

[spitfire]

Is it definitely glass and not some sort of polycarbonate?

 

[spitfire]

'Gets sledgehammer out of the shed...'

Call your local police and tell them there is a Just Stop Oil protester in your IKEA cabinet.

They will send round someone with a breaching charge.

 

[Boudicca]

Is it definitely glass and not some sort of polycarbonate?

Definitely glass. Ikea say the doors are glass and the shelves tempered glass.

 

[spitfire]

Definitely glass. Ikea say the doors are glass and the shelves tempered glass.

Fair enough, fucker should break then.