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Attica said:
I AM NOT best pleased with the latest shenanigans.
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Sorry about the following, often twonky, but nevertheless civil when sparring person-even-though-we-disagree, but I've been given no choice - I must challenge this:
Larry O'Hara said:
the above being...
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Where is your proof that I'm a pro-state apologist, Larry O'Hara?

245 mentions of state, and not one of them an apology. Feel free to provide proof to the contrary if you can find it.

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invisibleplanet said:
Where is your proof that I'm a pro-state apologist, Larry O'Hara?

245 mentions of state, and not one of them an apology. Feel free to provide proof to the contrary if you can find it.

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other people might feign ignorance of your posting history--you know perfectly well the history of your trolling interventions in threads I have crossed swords with you on. In which you have defended Searchlight and their disinformation consistently. So, your strategy here is to

1) either cause me to waste my time going back through all those threads & copy/pasting your contributions,

or

2) to rely on other posters not being bothered to do so, and thus like your Kopite friend allowing your past record to be excused by default.

I have better things to do than 1), more constructive (non-internet) matters to spend my time doing. If casual observers want to take it that you/the Kopite have 'won' the argument, let them do so. You, and I, know otherwise.
 
Ignorance of my posting history? History of my trolling interventions in threads where YOU have crossed swords with I? Consistent defence of Searchlight and their 'disinformation'? STRATEGY?
 
In Bloom said:
I know you find reality quite upsetting, but at least make an effort to think before you post a load of bollocks, eh?
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Oh rly, IB? No-one else does, why should TC be subject to that? :) :D *joke*
((((load of bollocks))))
 
Larry O'Hara said:
other people might feign ignorance of your posting history--you know perfectly well the history of your trolling interventions in threads I have crossed swords with you on. In which you have defended Searchlight and their disinformation consistently. So, your strategy here is to

1) either cause me to waste my time going back through all those threads & copy/pasting your contributions,

or

2) to rely on other posters not being bothered to do so, and thus like your Kopite friend allowing your past record to be excused by default.

I have better things to do than 1), more constructive (non-internet) matters to spend my time doing. If casual observers want to take it that you/the Kopite have 'won' the argument, let them do so. You, and I, know otherwise.
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If an accusation is worth making, then the evidence has to be presented. Otherwise you just look like you're trying to intimidate someone.

Imagine times of greater repression someone saying, "Oh, s/he's a state agent." That kind of thing gets people killed right now in other places. Present the evidence or withdraw, Larry. Otherwise you just look like a provocateur.
 
Tell you what, why don't the various people who want to argue about their research abilities, connections to special branch etc piss off to another thread and take the gormless idiots like inbloom and revol with them?:)
 
Oi. Apparently more happened here after I went to bed. Let's be clear - don't post PMs plz - I was a bit soft on that last night but it shouldn't happen. (Asking people to prove stuff that was said over PM isn't a good idea either.)
 
TopCat said:
Tell you what, why don't the various people who want to argue about their research abilities, connections to special branch etc piss off to another thread and take the gormless idiots like inbloom and revol with them?:)
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What were you expecting? How many ways can you discuss how you're going to "bash" "the rich"? Well, there's, "Urg, yes, bash em!" or "You stupid arseholes, what do you think that will achieve?"

Then there's advertising the intent to do violence to people on a public message board. If that wasn't stupid enough to begin with, no-one with half a brain will discuss it. Hence the reason the thread turned into a implicit/explicit smear-fest
 
butchersapron said:
Which one? That you support state authority? That you have called me and others islamophobes on here? That you tried to involve me in a smear game against another poster via pm last night without knowing that i knew the poster in real life? Bit of a fuck up that last one.
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You've never been involved in "smear games" have you, butchers? :D

Pull the other one, it's got bells on. :D
 
Spion said:
What were you expecting? How many ways can you discuss how you're going to "bash" "the rich"? Well, there's, "Urg, yes, bash em!" or "You stupid arseholes, what do you think that will achieve?"

Then there's advertising the intent to do violence to people on a public message board. If that wasn't stupid enough to begin with, no-one with half a brain will discuss it. Hence the reason the thread turned into a implicit/explicit smear-fest
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Nah, too many people feel that this type of action shows them up to be empty idiots who achieve nothing. If as has happened in the past, these type of actions raise the profile of Bash the Rich type events and organisation (Class war sold a lot of papers in the past and had an influence out of all proportion to their tiny size) then it makes a mockery of the pseudo intellectuals and their complete lack of action. Hence the agression and abuse.
 
TopCat said:
Nah, too many people feel that this type of action shows them up to be empty idiots who achieve nothing. If as has happened in the past, these type of actions raise the profile of Bash the Rich type events and organisation (Class war sold a lot of papers in the past and had an influence out of all proportion to their tiny size) then it makes a mockery of the pseudo intellectuals and their complete lack of action. Hence the agression and abuse.
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You clearly have a lot of faith in the potency of events like this and their ability to 'expose' 'pseudo intellectuals'. I guess we'll have to wait and see if that particular cause and effect works out.

Meanwhile, what do events like this hope to achieve? What could be its lasting outcomes? I can't help feeling it'll just be on the one hand a colourful spectacle for shoppers and on the other a sort of party rally for whoever's organising it.
 
Spion said:
You clearly have a lot of faith in the potency of events like this and their ability to 'expose' 'pseudo intellectuals'. I guess we'll have to wait and see if that particular cause and effect works out.

Meanwhile, what do events like this hope to achieve? What could be its lasting outcomes? I can't help feeling it'll just be on the one hand a colourful spectacle for shoppers and on the other a sort of party rally for whoever's organising it.
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What is hoped to be achieved? Well....

An escalating series of similar events for starters...
 
Suck it and see. Might just be a good laugh, might prove to help a re-groupment of people and help in some minor way to put the public expression of class anger back on the agenda, gods knows the time is ripe enough for that to happen given the super-rich flaunting their privilige in our faces with very little comeback. It's not supposed to be the storming of the winter palace.
 
TopCat said:
An escalating series of similar events for starters...
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Well, if that's the case let's hope they start to gain some political content that can address the problems the bulk of people face, rather than just catering for the Saturday afternoon sport of some nostalgic muggers
 
Spion said:
Well, if that's the case let's hope they start to gain some political content that can address the problems the bulk of people face, rather than just catering for the Saturday afternoon sport of some nostalgic muggers
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Your perception of what political content is appropriate is probably different to mine.
 
Spion said:
Present the evidence or withdraw, Larry. Otherwise you just look like a provocateur.
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the evidence is on U75 past threads, you tefious troll--if you aren't interested in looking for it, then go and play with yourself.
 
JoePolitix said:
1. Proudhon - a stain on humanity. More:

http://www.marxists.org/archive/draper/1966/twosouls/4-anarch.htm

2. Larry O'Hara - also a stain on humanity, though thankfully a less significant one. "If you're against me then you're objectively a state apologist" - 'kin' 'ell. And Invisibleplanet's actually a she not a he - you can't even get the basics right can ya?

3. Guru Yoghourtface - if you can't take the heat don't run into the kitchen in a fucking sweat suit.

As you were comrades :)
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What heat? There's nothing here I haven't heard countless times.
 
I mean the way you've been storming about saying "all you anarchists and Leninists are thick" etc and then whinging that people are being nasty to you when they answer back.

What else did you expect?
 
Dillinger4 said:
I can imagine you get called a fucking prick quite a lot.

Every time you open your mouth, I bet.
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I only get called such things by defensive emptyheads like you. I mean, you've done nothing but attack me. Apart from calling me stupid names, you've said nothing. Which is to be expected, of course. You have nothing to say.
 
GuruYoghourt said:
I only get called such things by defensive emptyheads like you. I mean, you've done nothing but attack me. Apart from calling me stupid names, you've said nothing. Which is to be expected, of course. You have nothing to say.
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Lots of posters have said much about you guruyoughurt. That you are a knee jerk SPGB type, who has insulted many if not most of the posters on this thread who unsurprisingly do not agree with you.
 
Larry O'Hara said:
the evidence is on U75 past threads, you tefious troll--if you aren't interested in looking for it, then go and play with yourself.
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You're not rid of me so easily, you perfidious buffoon.

The material evidence isn't there - if it were, you'd readily provide it instead of making unsubstantiated inferences to past threads.

Most people here haven't got a clue about what you're talking about since you don't provide evidence. What you referring to is unconnected to anything mentioned in this particular thread making you 'the troll'.

One might assume that your sudden appearance in this troll-like fashion to vent your 'rage' at me points to an annoyance that I discussed the more unsavoury characteristics of Proudhon and his work, but since you just popped by to call me a 'pro-state apologist', I'll just say this: since the rise of the nation-state/industry/capitalism, borders have become the bane of the majority of ordinary people's lives - from the Baja to the Bedouin, from Sapmi to Jew and from migrant to asylum seeker, immigrant to refugee - state borders restrict human movement in a way hithertoo unexperienced in the history of mankind. Whilst they might work in administrative ways - they also work against the natural movement of peoples.
 
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