So, we have a domestic tragedy in Spalding. Looks awful, and I can understand why there's media interest.
But this axeman/axeteenager in Wurtzburg probably wouldn't have been reported in the UK absent the heightened twitchiness - the story serves only to stoke up.
Why is this even news?.
The people he chopped up the worst were from Hong kong. Last time I checked the Chinese didn't attack Afghanistan .
And what your saying here boils down to ..essentially...migrants from countries that have been attacked by NATO will probably ...some of them...run about trying to murder us. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how that can be used . Your basically expecting migrants to launch mass murder bids .
Yep. Shame they couldn't kill him twice.What a horrible little cunt.
Im glad he's dead.
strange how er liberal you are when considering other people's mental health.Indeed. The terrorists who bombed their fellow citizens in NI/6 counties may well have been suffering some kind of trauma. These days, what with the world being so fucked up, I'll give anyone the benefit of the doubt.
We don't know the full story yet.
Which is precisely why "Europe and the West" have to maintain border controls and figure out a way of screening refugees before giving sanctuary.What i'm actually trying to get across is that there are a hell of a lot of traumatised people from war torn areas looking for sanctuary in Europe and the West and no one knows what the result of this is gonna be. Many will be fine and some won't, some will do a "falling down" some will commit suicide, some will take a perceived revenge and some will be Daesh infiltrators influenced to attack innocents.
Which is precisely why "Europe and the West" have to maintain border controls and figure out a way of screening refugees before giving sanctuary.
For sure. But I don't know anyone who actually supported the invasions of those countries, and they are among the people who are going to be 'paying the price'.Thing is, if you go around invading other people's countries and bombing them and killing them all over the place, then some of them are bound to get a little bit messed up in the head and come after you for revenge.
based on... what?....thought he was a Pakistani claiming to be Afghani to boost his asylum claim...
as you know, the world of literature is replete with tales of revenge: in the period you're particularly interested in, for instance, there are any number of revenge tragedies, not to mention such later works as the count of monte cristo. in these plays, in these books and in a vast array of films and television dramas - not to mention in real life - people who set out to take revenge do so against the people they blame for their misfortune / loss / injury etc. yet you'd have it that this lot are out for revenge, when it's very fucking clear that it isn't in fact about revenge but about a very current and contemporary war. this isn't for iran 1953 or whatnot, it's in furtherance of very current attempts to remake the world. it is about the islamic state projecting its power - or rather influence - through the hands of random instruments, beyond its shrinking borders.Thing is, if you go around invading other people's countries and bombing them and killing them all over the place, then some of them are bound to get a little bit messed up in the head and come after you for revenge.
There's really not much that can be done about that now. Bed's made, time to lie in it.
Which of course doesn't explain why ISIS have killed more Muslims than any other group of people.Thing is, if you go around invading other people's countries and bombing them and killing them all over the place, then some of them are bound to get a little bit messed up in the head and come after you for revenge.
There's really not much that can be done about that now. Bed's made, time to lie in it.
as you know, the world of literature is replete with tales of revenge: in the period you're particularly interested in, for instance, there are any number of revenge tragedies, not to mention such later works as the count of monte cristo. in these plays, in these books and in a vast array of films and television dramas - not to mention in real life - people who set out to take revenge do so against the people they blame for their misfortune / loss / injury etc. yet you'd have it that this lot are out for revenge, when it's very fucking clear that it isn't in fact about revenge but about a very current and contemporary war. this isn't for iran 1953 or whatnot, it's in furtherance of very current attempts to remake the world. it is about the islamic state projecting its power - or rather influence - through the hands of random instruments, beyond its shrinking borders.
it would be nice if now and again you could offer something more than a mere assertion to substantiate your claims.No, it's revenge. The way they see it, the West killed an awful lot of Muslim civilians, so they plan to kill an awful lot of Western civilians.
It's not just or moral, revenge never is. But it is revenge alright.
it would be nice if now and again you could offer something more than a mere assertion to substantiate your claims.
I have.If you don't think it's revenge, the onus is on you to suggest another motive.
I have.
Yes, I have. In post 162. You really are a bit thick sometimes Phil.No you have not.
For sure. But I don't know anyone who actually supported the invasions of those countries, and they are among the people who are going to be 'paying the price'.
I think it's fair to say 9/11 might justifiably be considered a provocation,tho whether the reaction justified or proportionate - aye, there's the arguing point.Of course. Just as countless innocent civilians have died in the unprovoked Western invasions of Muslim countries over the last 15 years. Invasions which--it must be said--were carried out be democratically elected governments, which were re-elected following the invasions.
In geopolitics as in life, you gets what you pays for.
We don't disagree on that, Phil.Of course. Just as countless innocent civilians have died in the unprovoked Western invasions of Muslim countries over the last 15 years. Invasions which--it must be said--were carried out be democratically elected governments, which were re-elected following the invasions.
In geopolitics as in life, you gets what you pays for.
We don't disagree on that, Phil.
I'm just saying that "The West" shouldn't throw open borders through a sense of guilt.
No, it's revenge. The way they see it, the West killed an awful lot of Muslim civilians, so they plan to kill an awful lot of Western civilians.
It's not just or moral, revenge never is. But it is revenge alright.
Yep I'm expecting every migrant to launch a mass murder bid thank you for telling me how I'm thinking I was confused for a while there
What i'm actually trying to get across is that there are a hell of a lot of traumatised people from war torn areas looking for sanctuary in Europe and the West and no one knows what the result of this is gonna be. Many will be fine and some won't, some will do a "falling down" some will commit suicide, some will take a perceived revenge and some will be Daesh infiltrators influenced to attack innocents.
I'm just chucking in some counters to stop this "them and us" bollocks that seems to be infiltrating everywhere at the moment which is depressing the hell out of me..........
Buggerinhell, had two grandas who went through the Somme and the remainder of WW1, then came back to endure the depressions of the 20s and 30s and too top it, the youngest was captured in the rearguard action at Dunkirk, they didn't then go out to subsequently murder those they thought responsible for their suffering!
I found that they "didn't like it up em"And you yourself must have witnessed awful things when you were with Kitchener in the Sudan .
No, it's revenge. The way they see it, the West killed an awful lot of Muslim civilians, so they plan to kill an awful lot of Western civilians.
It's not just or moral, revenge never is. But it is revenge alright.
Run away again I see Phil, rather than defend your revenge thesis.No you have not.